doc,i think i agree with you on this one.i have never,thank god,felt the necessity to kill anyone (though i recently wondered if i would),and i can not honestly say that i can know how i would feel if i did.but i would imagine that i would not feel a great deal of pity or remorse for them.i do not want to hurt nyone,and i definitely don't want to kill anyone.but if i felt that was the only way to stop them from killing me or a loved one,they either did,or were about to do something very bad,and it's on them.now,i probably would bitch about renting the equipment to celan up afterward.