With my belief that I know your heart, Bob, I believe you are setting yourself up for a failure of monumental proportions. Let's just start with the 2nd Amendment since we're on a gun forum. If I recall correctly, you've said that OC is not "legal" where you live. Does your understanding of the 2nd Amendment provide for the "legality" of government making OC illegal? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you don't believe it does, that you believe that to be an unconstitutional infringement. How about permission slips? Same thing is my guess. The first OC'er you encounter as an LEO, the first CC'er who doesn't have a permission slip, and BOOM! You have to choose between upholding your oath to the Constitution and keeping your job.
And please, you know how to read. You are intimately familiar with the English language. Don't say that you can't deem something unconstitutional unless and until the Supreme Court says it. You have a conscience, a (thankfully) very active and engaged one as a matter of fact. Everything you spend your time here writing about is based on
your understanding of what the Constitution protects for We, The People, and you stand firmly on its
words, not on the SCOTUS' wild and liberty-killing
interpretations of it. When you say, "So help me God" or "I swear and/or affirm," you will be swearing to abide by what the Constitution
says according to your own reading and understanding of its protections precisely
because your conscience is so active and engaged. Events in very recent history can serve as flagrant examples of what will happen more and more as the civil authorities that you
know cannot sustain any semblance of "law-abiding" status under the tyrants pulling its strings are called upon to quell the inevitable uprisings (Bundy Ranch anyone?) that will result from the ever-more egregious thefts of our liberties by our government. Let's just look at one from a part of the country with which I am very familiar with key places relevant to the overall event, and think about how you'd abide by your oath and protect people's rights in a plethora of ways that law enforcement bosses ordered, for all intents and purposes, a suspension of the Constitution for 6 days last year. The Christopher Dorner manhunt is the case, and these are just a few things off the top of my head that represent gross violations of constitutional rights of both unrelated citizens, and Chris Dorner.
Five SoCal counties were virtually occupied by a paramilitary force looking for
one man. Los Angeles, Orange, San Diego, Riverside and San Bernardino Counties combine to cut a 37,633 sq. mile swath of the state in which many roads from one end of that area to the other were road blocked with drivers and passengers who had given
zero probable cause to be contacted in any way by LE, were searched and questioned, many at gunpoint, some forced out of their vehicles to open trunks, lids or shells on pickup trucks, and boxes on commercial trucks. Tens of thousands of LEOs participated in this suspension of the Constitution. To this day, there is not one single report that I've ever seen or heard of, about an LEO who stood on his/her oath to say, "Respectfully Sir, I cannot carry out these orders to contact, harass, seize, question, or arrest people for whom I have no probable cause to believe they've committed a crime." Not one.
I used to live in Big Bear where Dorner was finally cornered and burned alive. I know exactly where the cabin was that he spent his last minutes of life in. There are
two highways one can take to get up and down the mountain going to or from the Big Bear Lake area. The cabin he was in was very close to one of those highways, Hwy. 38 to the Eastern face of the range, and Hwy. 330 about 30 miles to the West. Both highways dump into Riverside. After a gun battle between Dorner and cops near the cabin, Dorner broke into the cabin that the cops eventually
intentionally burnt to the ground with him in it. There are lots of unconstitutional actions we could discuss about that fact, but that's not what I'm drawing your attention to for now. While he's pinned down in that burning cabin just a few miles from Hwy. 38 and only a few miles from Big Bear Lake's Eastern shores, local streaming TV was showing the cluster coital act going on at the bottom of the hill at Hwy. 330 where there's at least three miles worth of cars backed up the hill on the two-lane hwy at rush hour as LE is still searching each and every vehicle coming down the mountain when radio traffic had been stating in no uncertain terms that Dorner was holed up in the cabin more than 60 miles away for a full hour before when I first saw that streaming video. At that time, the cabin was not only fully engulfed, but the roof was starting to collapse. That's how long after knowing
exactly where Dorner was that they kept tyrannizing innocent citizens just for what? Kicks? Testing their resolve not to be tyrannized? Boy, if it was the latter, they sho' 'nuff failed that test miserably!
So what're you gonna do Bob? You're the guy who's ordered to throw the incendiary devices into the cabin. I proved
the day it happened that it was
murder by cop, not an attempt to capture and give any due process to the guy. Not surprisingly (to me), you "Liked" that post, as well as a
subsequent one in which I provided more evidence of same. So do you throw the incendiary devices as one of your supervisors yells, "Burn it down! Burn that phuckin' house down!" Or do you drop your gear, walk back down to Hwy. 38 and hitch a ride home? Because if you tried to get between Dorner and those freakin' animals, you'd have gotten the same treatment as he did, and you know it.
None of that even gets into what if you were one of the cops on the scene when they opened fire on freakin' newspaper delivering ladies in the wrong colored, wrong make and wrong model truck, or the surfer dude just a couple of blocks away, again, in the wrong colored, wrong make and wrong model truck. Would you have drawn down on the idiots who opened fire? That's the only thing that could've conceivably been couched as "protecting and serving" We, The People. Would you have pushed the issue with your commanders if all they got was a slap on the wrist (which they didn't even get that - see below), like a suspension or freakin' desk duty for a week or a month? Would you have pushed for prosecution to the point of putting yourself in the media and telling The People what you saw against the orders of your superiors?
It is quite literally
against the law to be a Constitution-compliant cop anymore. You're a tough guy with tons of experience that will help you
survive the streets, but your Constitution-loving conscience will not be
allowed to survive with your body. Day-by-day you will be confronted with orders to "not see" what you already saw, to abuse innocent people, whether physically or by denying their rights in one way or another (or several ways in just one event), to serve non-Constitution-compliant warrants, all the stuff that you expose as common-place in today's LE in many, if not most, of your posts on this forum. You ain't tough enough, Little Brother, to change all that stuff all by yourself, and I don't care what anyone else says about "90% of LEOs are great guys," if those 90% aren't rattin' out the supposed 10% of the "bad" ones, then they ain't no better than the bad ones as far as I'm concerned, and they
ain't.
Like it or not, fair or not, many people when they see you approaching in your bright, shiny new uniform will see:
Daniel Harless
Officers Robert Chavez, Bobby Orosco, (no first name given) Hernandez; Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Deputies David Arredondo, Robert Rodriguez and Patrick Green - The utterly disgusting and degenerate anal
rapists of
Link Removed, three of whom are still definitely on the job, and the other three's status is being kept
secret!!!
Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli (Killers of Kelly Thomas)
Johannes Mehserle (Killer of Oscar Grant)
Officers Matthew Lopez and Richard Hastings (Killers of Kenneth Harding Jr.)
Oakland Police Sergeant Patrick Gonzales (Killer of Gary King Jr.)
Officer Stephen Rivers (Just watch the video)
8 Cops who shot more than 100 rounds at two innocent paper ladies during the Dorner manhunt are
all still on the job.
Officers Shaun Cowley and Kevin Salmon (Killers of Danielle Willard)
The platoon of unknown officers who murdered James Boyd for "illegal camping" in Albequerque, NM earlier this year.
I could go through many of your own posts to find more examples of what people will see as you approach them, Bob. You are setting yourself up for failure. Doesn't matter how pure your intentions are, or how long you avoid having to face ratting out the criminals among your ranks, you know as well as anyone here that they're there in every department of any significant size, and that sooner or later you'll witness criminality that will either put you at odds with your own conscience, or put you in the cross-hairs of those you stand up to, which will likely include their (and your) command structure. Tell me how you're going to protect your conscience and your chosen career without compromising one or the other. I never talk to you like a naive kid, Bob, you've certainly earned more respect than that from me, but thinking you can pull this one off is nothing short of total naivete. You are volunteering to play a game that can't be won in this day and age. I don't get it at all, because I know you
do get just exactly what I'm saying.
Blues