See that "specifically permitted by state law" thing would be a NEGATIVE for OC in Nevada!!
You see in Nevada OC is NOT ILLEGAL... That is, there is no law against it, however there is ALSO no law "specifically permitting it" So by that standard Sears Still has a NO OC policy in Nevada... :angry:
Glad to hear it. Good job and carry on. A right not exercised is a right lost.iv been open carrying in mi for about 4 mouths now
SCJeffro said:After making about 6 calls and talking to 10 different people, the 2nd to last last being a VP of something or other who referred me to the investigator/case manager who sent this email...
Quote:
Hello,
Its Emerald, your case manager, and this is the Sears cooperate policy regarding fire arms. Please call or email me to confirm you have gotten this information. Your case number is xxxxxxx.
Subject: RE: Request for fire arm/weapon policy
Here is the response from Sears Senior Counsel:
Our corporate policy regarding customers who openly carry firearms on our store premises is that as long as the law of the state in which our store is located legally permits the open carrying of firearms (i.e. carrying a firearm on one's person in plain sight), customers will be permitted to openly carry firearms within our stores.
Emerald Sloan
Blue Ribbon Service Case Manager
Sears Holdings Corporation
Toll Free: 1-888-266-4043 extension 75
Email: BlueRibbonService2@searshc.com
Schedule: Monday - Saturday 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM (CST) off Wednesday and Sunday
I have removed my case number (as it is attached at SEARS to my email, home address and phone number through my old SEARS account)
So there you go, I feel this is enough for me to stop the SEARS boycott, in fact maybe you can print it out and take it to the store that kicked you out and tell the manager and Security guy to contact the Sears Senior Counsel themselves if they have questions!
In Wisconsin, we Open Carry. There is no concealed carry here. I carry a full sized Stainless 1911, cocked and locked on my waist in a belt slide, thumb break holster. Illinois is the only state I am aware of that does not allow carry for it's citizens.
Hopefully, Wisconsin will join Vermont, Alaska and now Arizona in a blanket carry without the bureaucracy, licensing and taxation. CCW is BS. Licensing you to allow you to exercise your Constitutional Right is a crock and every time we buy into this BS about reasonable laws or responsible legislation that infringes on our right to keep and bear arms, we are losing.
I know this is preaching to the choir, but this has to stop. Can anybody please explain to me why any state needs to license your concealed carry. Please let me know how this prevents crime since the BGs carry concealed regardless of law. If the licensing isn't there to prevent crime; which it is not, it is a tax on your Constitutional right. plain and simple. Wake up. These laws are just there to harass and screw with law abiding citizens. The rest is tax and track.
So I wouldn't be to proud of CCW unless you're from Vermont, Alaska, or Arizona. Short of that, you've been buffalo'd.
Based on Paintsnow's information I wrote back Dylan C (see my earlier post) and told him he needed to update his information and inserted the information in Paintsnow's post.
Just spreading the word within their organization.
Since Open Carry is NOT legal for the most part in Florida (there are exceptions), nobody in Sears will know that I'm carrying anywayz, so no real opportunity to educate. So, educating the home office is my best choice.This is clearly the same thing we see with other places that have similar policies, (IE Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot, etc) where the policy is never or has not yet been distributed out to all the store managers and staff. We just need to keep "educating" the "sheeple" that work at these places to what THEIR OWN POLICIES really are!
:secret:
Kmart a no carry zone? I hate to say it, but I think thats wrong information. I openly carried in a Kmart not even 3 days ago, no incident, I also conceal carry in there. Again, no incident [might be because they dont see it? lol] But, either way, it might vary by manager, or by state.
Iceman I completely disagree with you on many levels. With the right training you can be able to shoot from over 7 yards away. Also because of the Federal Government some of us are not legally old enough to carry again however out state does permit us to open carry. I think your take on open carry is very wrong. I open carry not because I want to show off my gun but because I can not carry a firearm any other way. If I could, yeah I would more than love to go and out get my CCW carry 1 or more guns with me and never let anybody see it.
It USED to be a corporate policy a couple days ago that no firearms were allowed. Sure enforcement might not have been consistent across the board, and could have possibly varied by manager, but the policy was on the books, and the whole corporation did not want citizens carrying at any of their Sears or Kmart locations. Please go back and see the responses received from corporate representatives.
A letter was sent down from Sears Senior Councel (Sears Holdings Corporation owns Kmart, so this decision applies to all Sears and Kmart retail locations) stating that the policy now is to allow firearms in all of their locations where state and local laws permit it.
Thanks to the hard work of SCJeffro and everybody who emailed and mailed Sears Corporate, we have achieved a victory for our RKBA.
Playing referee here, nothing ever gets accomplished by telling someone that their take on a certain mode of carry is (very) wrong. Everyone's got their own perspective and opinion, and it's theirs to have. I've got my own view, as do you, as does he, and nobody's definitively right or wrong. My perspective tends to vary greatly from those who are strictly anti-OC, but that's their opinions to have. I've said it a million times - both modes of carry have their +'s and -'s. Myself, being pro-OC, am sick of the "wild west" references, the opinion that OC is only for attention, is just stupid, it's to show off, etc. But I'm not going to waste my time and energy on trying to change those peoples' views. Just as no one should waste their time trying to change mine. For whatever reason you OC, in this case it being your only legal method, there will be those who "know" you're doing it for another reason... I think it best just to let them think whatever they're gonna think. They will anyway.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?