Good morning Lee
I got stopped by the local Sheriff Deputy a couple weeks ago. I pulled over wound down the window and placed my hands on the steering wheel. I did not have the carry with me.
When he approached he asked if I knew why he stopped me, I asked if I had been speeding he said "No, my licence plate light was out."
I than gave him my drivers licence, registration, and insurance card, he went back to his vehicle.
When he returned he asked if I was carrying, I said No.
He asked why I didn't announce I had a carry permit.
I told him that was not a requirement in Ohio to announce unless I have a concealed carry.
He disagreed and said I should have to be courteous to the officer.
He gave me a warning ticket, and I told him I would announce the next time just to be courteous, but I also felt he should review the Ohio concealed carry law requirements.
Debray
That's easy. Don't travel with a gun that's not registered to you or that you're not the legal owner of.
I handed her my license, informed her that I had a handgun in the glove box, and asked if she would prefer to retrieve it.
She said yes, rather quickly, and walked around to the passenger's side door. She opened the door, opened the glovebox, and retrieved my PT-140, .....
My biggest problem, which surprises me that nobody else caught it, is WHY DID YOU OFFER IT TO HER!?!?!?!?
I didn't catch what state this was in, but assuming you are required to inform, you ONLY have to inform that you're carrying & its location. There's no sense in offering iit to her to secure it. If she wants it, she'll ask. Otherwise, you're putting words in her head. It just opens up the door for them to possibly mishandle your gun.
You're right, I should have definately reached in the glove box without informing the officer, and retreived my information from underneath my loaded handgun without her expecting it. I'm sure that wouldn't have bothered Ms./Mrs. Officer at all. I should have also left the dome light off and had that whiskey bottle in the cupholder instead of the trunk.
EDIT:
Ok, I see what you mean by just telling her it's there and not offering for her to secure it. When I asked if she would like to retreive "it," I meant the insurance information, not my gun.
You're right, I should have definately reached in the glove box without informing the officer, and retreived my information from underneath my loaded handgun without her expecting it. I'm sure that wouldn't have bothered Ms./Mrs. Officer at all. I should have also left the dome light off and had that whiskey bottle in the cupholder instead of the trunk.
EDIT:
Ok, I see what you mean by just telling her it's there and not offering for her to secure it. When I asked if she would like to retreive "it," I meant the insurance information, not my gun.
The gun was in the glove box because I do not have a center console in my car. I have applied for, but not received, my CC permit, so the glove box (or the trunk) is the only place I can legally keep a gun in South Carolina.
I also normally have a round chambered but had cleared the pistol earlier in the day and not chambered one again.
Just out of curiosity Glockster, what happens if the SN comes back as not being registered to you? I mean, if it hasn't been used in a crime or anything but hasn't been registered to you.
You still haven't revealed what state you're in. At least if we know that, we would know if you're required to notify.
Aha....I misread the "it" part. My apologies.
He said SC so I assume that he lives in SC. There is no duty to notify if you don't have a permit but before you start fumbling around looking for your L&R under your gun you would be wise to let the officer know. This advice was been given to me from attorneys and LEO many years ago before there were any permits in SC. That is one reason that I do not keep a gun in the glove box with my L&R.
Well my next question is, how long will it be before you get your CWP and can carry wherever and however you want in your vehicle?
My understanding was that if you have a CWP you could no longer carry in the glove box or console. I though you HAD to carry it on you (or in a purse for a woman). Is that wrong?
In SC the law as long as I can remember is that you could carry a gun in the glove box of your car. I do not remember what the exact law was but there were some AG interpretations on it that also included latched satchels. They did not have to be locked, only have a "latch". This made for some confusion and the popularity of consoles in cars became almost the standard. The law was "refined" to specifically state either glove box or console. In SC there is no open carry provision except for certain instances such as on the way to hunting or fishing etc. The only way to carry without a permit and those exceptions are in the glove box or console.
Your point about as easily from the console as your hip may be a good one but when you get out of your car then what do you do with your gun if you don't have a permit?
My understanding was that if you have a CWP you could no longer carry in the glove box or console. I though you HAD to carry it on you (or in a purse for a woman). Is that wrong? Once I get my CWP I would still be more comfortable if I could move the pistol to the glove box when I was driving.
If you are refering to me I have had my permit for several years and still do not carry one in my glove box. As for carrying one wherever and however you want you still cannot do that in SC. Even with a permit it still must be concealed even in your car.
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