Proof in hand... and your still arrested.


I' am shocked that this happened . Why can't the system put stamps on the license plates and Develope software. So the stamps can be scanned by police when someone is pulled over. We have the technology this would be more accurate and Oh Yeah Logical

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That record can be expunged so that it does not show up. But it takes time and money in most cases. The money should be part of the settlement as should removal of anything in the records. Including the DNA results and records.
They still pop on a LE background check in NY. Disposition of the case says "dismissed-expunged." Expunged record show on the background check for CCW permits. I was shocked. My own attorney had this happen to him.
 
They still pop on a LE background check in NY. Disposition of the case says "dismissed-expunged." Expunged record show on the background check for CCW permits. I was shocked. My own attorney had this happen to him.

Does NY law provide that if you apply for the CCW permit that a person's statement to no arrests/convictions is lawful and not perjury if the record is expunged?
 
I' am shocked that this happened . Why can't the system put stamps on the license plates and Develope software. So the stamps can be scanned by police when someone is pulled over. We have the technology this would be more accurate and Oh Yeah Logical

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Florida already does. Our renewal stickers carry the month and date, tag number, and a record number. Barcodes are easy to generate. If the sticker matches the plate, then it is valid for the plate. Florida also allows for use of older tags issued for historic or collector cars starting when the car is 30 years old. That means cars currently made before March of 1985 here. And some agencies are using plate scanning software when driving through parking lots looking for violators. And out on the highways. Big Brother is here. My pickup and trailer are in the Federal database due to the requirement for entering weigh stations.
 
I' am shocked that this happened . Why can't the system put stamps on the license plates and Develope software. So the stamps can be scanned by police when someone is pulled over. We have the technology this would be more accurate and Oh Yeah Logical

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Once arrested one's good reputation is ruined forever. Even if charges are dropped he still carries an arrest record. An that record pops on a background check. These morons arrest innocent people with impunity. There is no price that can be put on my clean record. Without it I couldn't have conducted business or obtained investment bank financing.


So true!

My clean records are priceless, took years to keep them this way and to even imagine that all it'll take is a nomad with a badge to tarnish that is very scary.
 
Car owner arrested... for being in possession of his own car.
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This **** is scary. Even with PROOF OF OWNERSHIP, these fools are not smart enough to figure it out. I seriously hope this guy get a fat check and these cops get fired for negligence and false arrest... but they wont.
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This has what to do with general firearms?
 
Does NY law provide that if you apply for the CCW permit that a person's statement to no arrests/convictions is lawful and not perjury if the record is expunged?
The instructions say to list every arrest regardless of incident. Even ACD's and arrests where the charge was dropped must be listed. Every government form has the perjury thing. But submitting a document to a government agency that one knows contains materially false statements is a misdemeanor "Offering a false instrument." ACD's, dropped charges and sealed cases aren't considered in the permit process. Just saying it pops. It's not to be considered in any permit application. Where a person lists an arrest other than ACD or dismissed charges they must write a letter explaining the charge, circumstances and conviction. Convictions for low-level crimes aren't an issue. Been doing permits a long time in NY. I've had two denials; one for a guy who smacked his son in the mouth hard enough to cause 12 stitches, who also had an old harassment charge for which he received probation... the judge said he had "temperament not suitable for handgun licensing." The other was a gal who had 3 DUI's over the past eight years plus public intoxication and disorderly conduct convictions. When she was denied she called me pissed, like it's my fault. I told her "honey if you told me you had that record I would have told you to save your money and stop drinking."
 
So true!

My clean records are priceless, took years to keep them this way and to even imagine that all it'll take is a nomad with a badge to tarnish that is very scary.

Agreed, my clean record is what has allowed me to obtain my clearances and access to certain employment opportunities. It's a big effing deal.
 
The instructions say to list every arrest regardless of incident. Even ACD's and arrests where the charge was dropped must be listed. Every government form has the perjury thing. But submitting a document to a government agency that one knows contains materially false statements is a misdemeanor "Offering a false instrument." ACD's, dropped charges and sealed cases aren't considered in the permit process. Just saying it pops. It's not to be considered in any permit application. Where a person lists an arrest other than ACD or dismissed charges they must write a letter explaining the charge, circumstances and conviction. Convictions for low-level crimes aren't an issue. Been doing permits a long time in NY. I've had two denials; one for a guy who smacked his son in the mouth hard enough to cause 12 stitches, who also had an old harassment charge for which he received probation... the judge said he had "temperament not suitable for handgun licensing." The other was a gal who had 3 DUI's over the past eight years plus public intoxication and disorderly conduct convictions. When she was denied she called me pissed, like it's my fault. I told her "honey if you told me you had that record I would have told you to save your money and stop drinking."

The reason I asked, Florida says expunged records are the same as it didn't happen and there is no perjury penalty. So no need to put on any paperwork. You do have to wonder if there is that note of an expunged record or records, if there really is a true decision on a permit.
 
Agreed, my clean record is what has allowed me to obtain my clearances and access to certain employment opportunities. It's a big effing deal.

Same here. I doubt I'd have been allowed unescorted access to the places I've been without a clean record. Or even into the places in some cases.
 
Does NY law provide that if you apply for the CCW permit that a person's statement to no arrests/convictions is lawful and not perjury if the record is expunged?
I don't know. I'll check with someone. I doubt it would be perjury given a person's belief that the record is a non-event. There's no intent to deceive.
 

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