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Gonna have to walk kinda stiff legged with it stuck down your trouser leg! Sure he would!
How does that old saying go? "Is that a shotgun in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?" LOL.
Gonna have to walk kinda stiff legged with it stuck down your trouser leg! Sure he would!
Tear him up M&P40 couldn't have said it better , the problem here is to many carpet baggers from Mass. and the other far left Liberal Commie states ! They moved here and never asked about the gun laws SUCKERS , and if I'm not mistakened Seabrook still has a law on the books that you can take your shotgun to church . People are really paronoid and the sheepdogs need to be educated and the town of portsmouth gray matter has dwindled . I lived there for 13 yrs. and carryed many guns uncover in and out of my house and up the street was seen by many and never a problem but that was 20 yrs. ago !!
Mister I'm really loving it , I just don't get it the neighborhood there is a concidable amount of IRON and We the family feel quit safe here and I know we are . I know people here as of today don't lock there doors can ya emagine that and if there is a bump in the night they all get up and out to see what the hay ! So these simple minded people that cry gun just have no idea what safe is and I will say it SURE IS NICE !!!!!!!!
You can't unless you have a concealed weapons permit. Then you should stuff it down your blue jeans(or just pay for a NFA sawed off shotgun).
I know this thread is a bit old... but that is not true. In New Hampshire you can CCW a shotgun or rifle without any permit whatsoever.
You just cannot have it loaded in a vehicle... (unless you have a permit from the Executive Director of Fish and Game)
No you can not carry concealed on your persons a loaded, or unloaded long gun without a concealed carry permit.
The permit from fish and game allows you to have a loaded long rifle in your vehicle,it also allows you to hunt(shoot from) your vehicle.
Sure you could still carry a long gun concealed on your person with out a permit, but if found to be doing so you would be arrested. Again I'm talking about CONCEALED!
Not open carrying a long gun, that you can do with out a permit. You can even open carry a open long gun with no permit. You could open carry your fully loaded Ak-47 with an hundred round drum mag into the state house with no problems. Why you would want to, other then "Because you can or It's my right" is beyond me. But hey as the saying goes "Whatever floats your boat."
Yes you can.
159:1 Definition. – Pistol or revolver, as used herein, means any firearm with barrel less than 16 inches in length.
159:4 Carrying Without License. – No person shall carry a loaded pistol or revolver in any vehicle or concealed upon his person, except in his dwelling, house or place of business, without a valid license therefor as hereinafter provided.
Chapter 159 which is the pistol/revolver licensing scheme has nothing to do with long guns. There is no other statue in New Hampshire law which governs the criminalization/permitting of concealment of a gun other than 159:4.
The permit is only issued so that a disabled person can shoot from the vehicle.
Arrested for what, exactly?
That statement is correct. Any firearm can be open carried in New Hampshire anywhere other than in courthouses or federal buildings. Actually, weapons can be carried into federal buildings under certain circumstances.
Go for it, feel free to be the test case in NH I'll be sure to show up to your trail.
You can carry firearms into court houses, they must be turned over to the rent a cops.
RSA 159:19,
I. No person shall knowingly carry a loaded or unloaded pistol, revolver, or firearm or any other deadly weapon as defined in RSA 625:11, V, whether open or concealed or whether licensed or unlicensed, upon the person or within any of the person's possessions owned or within the person's control in a courtroom or area used by a court. Whoever violates the provisions of this paragraph shall be guilty of a class B felony.
II. Firearms may be secured at the entrance to a courthouse by courthouse security personnel.
III. For purposes of paragraph I, ""area used by a court'' means:
(a) In a building dedicated exclusively to court use, the entire building exclusive of the area between the entrance and the courthouse security.
But in order to get them back, they take all of your information and and run a back ground check on you.
Test case?
There is nothing ambiguous about the definition to which the provisions of 159:4 apply. If you are inferring that some police officer would arrest someone for concealing a shotgun because the law is murky, well, then I hope that I am the one who gets arrested for violating 159:4 for concealing a shotgun under my coat. That would be a wonderful deprivation of rights under the color of law civil action.
An example of a murky law where a test case could ensue would be the Gun Free School Zone Act... no one really knows if it still violates Lopez or if all the BS Congress placed in it magically re-connects it to the Commerce Clause.
The GFSZA is murky.... the chapter dealing with "pistols and revolvers" is not.
I agree with your interpretation of that law... but in practice, most court security officers don't do this. They'll tell you to leave your firearm in your car and wont let you in otherwise.
The important thing about that section is the placement of the word "may." It implies that a person "may" secure their firearm, not that a court security person "may" allow you to do it. If it implied the latter, court security would have the legal right to refuse it.
I've personally been told to leave my firearm in my car before and I've pointed this out to the CSO's at the desk. They really don't care what the law says.
NH RSA 159:19 states that Court Security Officers may secure firearms that are surrendered for safekeeping at security screening areas by individuals seeking to enter the courthouse.
The general procedure for accomplishing this is as follows:
It is the responsibility of the owner to ensure that the firearm is cleared of all ammunition prior to bringing it into the courthouse. The Court Security Officer will:
1. Check to ensure that the firearm is in a safe condition by verifying that the firearm is not loaded.
2. Place the firearm in a lock box for safekeeping. A lockbox is available at every courthouse.
3. Obtain a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm, photo identification from the individual, and obtain the full name and date of birth of the individual.
4. Complete and issue a receipt for the firearm to the individual.
During the time that the individual with the firearm is in the courthouse, the Court Security Officer will determine whether or not there is anything (domestic violence orders or person being a convicted felon) that would prevent the individual from possessing a firearm. If it is found that the person is disqualified from carrying the firearm then local law enforcement is notified and they determine what further steps to take.
Additionally, Court Security Officers are to be alert to the possibility of the individual becoming disruptive or agitated while conducting business with the court. If in the judgment of the Court Security Officer, the return of the firearm would create a risk to public safety, the firearm will be retained and turned over to local law enforcement and they determine what further steps to take.
NH RSA 159:19 states that Court Security Officers may secure firearms that are surrendered for safekeeping at security screening areas by individuals seeking to enter the courthouse.
Notice how their policy takes the right away from you and gives it to them? It is the placement of "may" that I was talking about. The law doesn't say that they "may" do it, giving them the option to not do it. It says an individual "may" exercise the option. It really peeves me when bureaucrats assume authority over something they don't have control of.
Also-- I don't think that they have any authority to require firearms to be unloaded before you turn them over. If one is carrying a firearm for protection it would be kind of silly to carry it unloaded. I also don't believe they have the authority to retain a gun because someone is upset. Being upset isn't illegal and there is no statue which authorizes seizing the gun.
Well, yeah, that seems to be a natural response for the unfamiliar.
Law enforcement has a delicate balancing act when it comes to these types of situations. What they need to be perfectly clear about, though, is that mere possession of a firearm itself doesn't justify a Terry stop.
On September 8, 2009, United States District Judge Bruce D. Black of the United States District Court for New Mexico entered summary judgment in a civil case for damages against Alamogordo, NM police officers. The Judge's straight shootin' message to police: Leave open carriers alone unless you have "reason to believe that a crime [is] afoot."
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