turk february
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You don't think the bill proposed in Nov or the current lawsuit will do anything to lessen the ccw restrictions?
New Jersey sucks. The bad guys know we can't carry, which is why the crime rate is so high. We will never be allowed to carry in NJ.
I really hate it here and want to move to PA. I ride my motorcycle in PA and can carry in PA, and almost every other state.
New Hampshire was the best, it only took 14 days from door to door.
if you read the brief submitted by the AG you'll see the mindset in place and if the judge thinks like her nothing will change....one statement she wrote;
if we allow citizens to carry violent gun crimes will increase, while some may carry for protection others will use them to committ crime...
to me that says even if you pass a background check you cant be trusted
imo...even if the justifiable part was removed nj is still a "may issue"state, they will continue to deny on public safety reasons,which by itself is constitutional if you apply that argument to the 1st amendment ..but a cleo can deny the FID for public safety even though scotus said we have a right to firearms ..to what level do you determine public safety?..the only way to get true shall issue in nj is through legislation..if this went to the scotus; the court would have to say every state is to be shall issue..does anyone see that happening?? i dont....if it did I could see decades of arguments over the regulation and restrictions or a federal law regulating the carry of handguns and that would be a cold day in .......it has to come from the state level not the court....until nj rids itself of liberal dems nothing will change......
2C:58-4. Permits to carry handguns
a. Scope and duration of authority. Any person who holds a valid permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to this section shall be authorized to carry a handgun in all parts of this State, except as prohibited by section 2C:39-5e. One permit shall be sufficient for all handguns owned by the holder thereof, but the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual and legal holder of the permit.
All permits to carry handguns shall expire 2 years from the date of issuance or, in the case of an employee of an armored car company, upon termination of his employment by the company occurring prior thereto whichever is earlier in time, and they may thereafter be renewed every 2 years in the same manner and subject to the same conditions as in the case of original applications.
b. Application forms. All applications for permits to carry handguns, and all applications for renewal of such permits, shall be made on the forms prescribed by the superintendent. Each application shall set forth the full name, date of birth, sex, residence, occupation, place of business or employment, and physical description of the applicant, and such other information as the superintendent may prescribe for the determination of the applicant's eligibility for a permit and for the proper enforcement of this chapter. The application shall be signed by the applicant under oath, and shall be indorsed by three reputable persons who have known the applicant for at least 3 years preceding the date of application, and who shall certify thereon that the applicant is a person of good moral character and behavior.
c. Investigation and approval. Each application shall in the first instance be submitted to the chief police officer of the municipality in which the applicant resides, or to the superintendent, (1) if the applicant is an employee of an armored car company, or (2) if there is no chief police officer in the municipality where the applicant resides, or (3) if the applicant does not reside in this State. The chief police officer, or the superintendent, as the case may be, shall cause the fingerprints of the applicant to be taken and compared with any and all records maintained by the municipality, the county in which it is located, the State Bureau of Identification and the Federal Bureau of Identification. He shall also determine and record a complete description of each handgun the applicant intends to carry.
No application shall be approved by the chief police officer or the superintendent unless the applicant demonstrates that he is not subject to any of the disabilities set forth in 2C:58-3c., that he is thoroughly familiar with the safe handling and use of handguns, and that he has a justifiable need to carry a handgun. If the application is not approved by the chief police officer or the superintendent within 60 days of filing, it shall be deemed to have been approved, unless the applicant agrees to an extension of time in writing.
d. Issuance by Superior Court; fee. If the application has been approved by the chief police officer or the superintendent, as the case may be, the applicant shall forthwith present it to the Superior Court of the county in which the applicant resides, or to the Superior Court in any county where he intends to carry a handgun, in the case of a nonresident or employee of an armored car company. The court shall issue the permit to the applicant if, but only if, it is satisfied that the applicant is a person of good character who is not subject to any of the disabilities set forth in section 2C:58-3c., that he is thoroughly familiar with the safe handling and use of handguns, and that he has a justifiable need to carry a handgun. The court may at its discretion issue a limited-type permit which would restrict the applicant as to the types of handguns he may carry and where and for what purposes such handguns may be carried. At the time of issuance, the applicant shall pay to the county clerk of the county where the permit was issued a permit fee of $20.00.
its lawmakers like Boxer that want a communist rule type of country..by removing individuality from the citizens and have us think and walk as one....her bill is crapola
many states recognize self defense as "good cause" and how does she propose to determine who or how you are worthy of public trust?.... if you pass a background check
thats should be enough to indicate trust..she just wants to disarm everybody without losing her job.....
Samlee,
Once the fire arm is in your house there is nothing they can do :biggrin:. Go to the local police department and request the paperwork for your firearms ID card and pistol permit (i think you can purchase/register up to 3 handguns per permit). Get printed, pay way too much money and wait a while and when you get the F.A. ID card and the pistol permits you can then register the handgun. You might have to go to a licensed dealer to have them verify the state transfer of the gun. I could be a little off on the pistol permit part but i know you have to get the stupid fire arms id card to have a handgun or long gun in NJ.
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