More likely to get hurt or killed while carrying a firearm?
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Would you rather beat the attacker off with superior skill or negotiating technique?
Of course we all know the best way to avoid an attack is to be aware and avoid it altogether. But all of us aren't that smart. So again, what does one use for backup? Anything other than a gun right? I prefer a gun.
Dr. T.
Of course we all know the best way to avoid an attack is to be aware and avoid it altogether. But all of us aren't that smart. So again, what does one use for backup? Anything other than a gun right? I prefer a gun.
Dr. T.
weekendskp
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Deanimator
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NRA-NSTRCTR
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I think I will carry and take my chances!
The premise is flawed in that it is impossible to know who is even carrying when considering concealed carry. In addition, as the biased media does not even report on successful avoidance in those instances where there is public knowledge, the math is not possible. Even carry supporters have no accurate figures on how many instances of violence or death were avoided by the presents of an armed defendant.
It appears that the only accurate conclusion that can be made concerning this "fact" is that anyone that promotes it has a serious cranial-rectal inversion.
It appears that the only accurate conclusion that can be made concerning this "fact" is that anyone that promotes it has a serious cranial-rectal inversion.
Ruger357SP101
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Consider the source of these asinine comments.
This is the same regurgitated rhetoric the Brady bunch spews out to keep people afraid to get a gun or carry.
When you hear crap like this, smile, tell the person to take a flying leap, and walk away.
You cant argue with them because they are mindless automatons who have given up free will to become BradyDrones.
I think you might misunderstand the premise:
The Liberal Pacifist swine are trying to perpetuate their belief that if you are Robbed you should submit because you might anger the robber and he might harm you because you made him mad by pulling a pistol on him.
Whereas if you submit like a good unarmed liberal pacifist you'll be perfectly safe and he'll just rob you and not harm you. After all: it's not his fault. He's just a victim of an evil, corrupt society. He's just trying to make a living the only way he knows how.
They Really believe that crap.
I think it's liberal wishful thinking. If those who live by the sword die by the sword then I'll never buy I sword and I'll live forever. Never mind that most of those who live by the Sword Die of Old Age.
There is some truth: in that if you don't have a clue what you are doing you'll shoot yourself in the foot before anyone tries to rob you . (Plaxico Burris comes to mind)
The STATISTICAL truth is that if you are robbed and have a pistol you will be injured 17% of the time. If you are robbed and don't have a pistol you will be injured 35% of the time.
Therefore I believe that it is twice as dangerous to not carry a pistol.
Provided of course that you have the stomach for it; and know what you are doing and don't shoot yourself in the foot like Mr Burris.
I personally would rather die by the sword rather than cower in the fear in the corner. If that were the only two choices. But that's just me.
Everyone has to make his own choices.
The Liberal Pacifist swine are trying to perpetuate their belief that if you are Robbed you should submit because you might anger the robber and he might harm you because you made him mad by pulling a pistol on him.
Whereas if you submit like a good unarmed liberal pacifist you'll be perfectly safe and he'll just rob you and not harm you. After all: it's not his fault. He's just a victim of an evil, corrupt society. He's just trying to make a living the only way he knows how.
They Really believe that crap.
I think it's liberal wishful thinking. If those who live by the sword die by the sword then I'll never buy I sword and I'll live forever. Never mind that most of those who live by the Sword Die of Old Age.
There is some truth: in that if you don't have a clue what you are doing you'll shoot yourself in the foot before anyone tries to rob you . (Plaxico Burris comes to mind)
The STATISTICAL truth is that if you are robbed and have a pistol you will be injured 17% of the time. If you are robbed and don't have a pistol you will be injured 35% of the time.
Therefore I believe that it is twice as dangerous to not carry a pistol.
Provided of course that you have the stomach for it; and know what you are doing and don't shoot yourself in the foot like Mr Burris.
I personally would rather die by the sword rather than cower in the fear in the corner. If that were the only two choices. But that's just me.
Everyone has to make his own choices.
The liberal swine also like to perpetuate the myth that gun owners are more likely to be shot by their own firearm than a firearm wielding criminal. So if you don't own a firearm you be safer.
But if you look at the actual statistics for people shot with their own firearms approximately 1/3 of them are cops. The obvious reason for this is that cops go out looking for trouble. It is their jay oh be. And many a criminal slime try to wrestle the pistol from the cop and some of them succeed.
So: If you are not a cop you're less likely to be shot with your own firearm.
Approximately 1/6 of people shot with their own firearms are Suicides.
So: If you are not a cop and you don't. Commit Suicide; you're less likely to be shot with your own firearm.
Approximately 1/6 of people shot with their own firearm are men who beat the crap out of their wives. Eventually the wives get tired of taking it and shoot them with their own firearm.
So: If you are not a cop and you don't. Commit Suicide; and you don't beat your wife; you're less likely to be shot with your own firearm.
But if you look at the actual statistics for people shot with their own firearms approximately 1/3 of them are cops. The obvious reason for this is that cops go out looking for trouble. It is their jay oh be. And many a criminal slime try to wrestle the pistol from the cop and some of them succeed.
So: If you are not a cop you're less likely to be shot with your own firearm.
Approximately 1/6 of people shot with their own firearms are Suicides.
So: If you are not a cop and you don't. Commit Suicide; you're less likely to be shot with your own firearm.
Approximately 1/6 of people shot with their own firearm are men who beat the crap out of their wives. Eventually the wives get tired of taking it and shoot them with their own firearm.
So: If you are not a cop and you don't. Commit Suicide; and you don't beat your wife; you're less likely to be shot with your own firearm.
Brabbit
Some very good points are made and I wish that the anti-gun populus would just keep their opinions to themselves! (But we all know that will never happen.) I recently caught hell for target shooting with my wife and 2 children. The verbal attacker was my wife's father who conveniently lives next to us. According to him, I was putting his grandchildren at risk by letting them take turns plinking with my S&W M@P 22. He did not bother to notice that they both wore hearing and eye protection, and followed every safety rule to the letter!All that mattered was they could be hurt or killed. Well no one was injured that day, and only some soda cans died! He is the type you speak of and nothing can be said to convince him that guns are not some evil force. Getting a bit off point, but my wife and I both carry from morning to night and it has never invited trouble,in fact it may have prevented it because I open carry most times (Gotta love VT!)
Iwould rather die standing , than die begging on my knees!:triniti:
Some very good points are made and I wish that the anti-gun populus would just keep their opinions to themselves! (But we all know that will never happen.) I recently caught hell for target shooting with my wife and 2 children. The verbal attacker was my wife's father who conveniently lives next to us. According to him, I was putting his grandchildren at risk by letting them take turns plinking with my S&W M@P 22. He did not bother to notice that they both wore hearing and eye protection, and followed every safety rule to the letter!All that mattered was they could be hurt or killed. Well no one was injured that day, and only some soda cans died! He is the type you speak of and nothing can be said to convince him that guns are not some evil force. Getting a bit off point, but my wife and I both carry from morning to night and it has never invited trouble,in fact it may have prevented it because I open carry most times (Gotta love VT!)
Iwould rather die standing , than die begging on my knees!:triniti:
From Gun Facts 5.1
"Myth: You are more likely to be injured or killed using a gun for self-defense
Fact: You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were:160
Resisting with a gun 6%
Did nothing at all 25%
Resisted with a knife 40%
Non-violent resistance 45%
160 British Home Office – not a “pro-gun” organization by any means"
This is a direct quote from Gun Facts version 5.1 copyright 2009 page 28. I will trust them over some hoplophobe running off at the mouth. If you don't have Gun Facts I suggest you download it now, it's free. Gun Facts - Gun Control | Facts | Debunk | Myths
"Myth: You are more likely to be injured or killed using a gun for self-defense
Fact: You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were:160
Resisting with a gun 6%
Did nothing at all 25%
Resisted with a knife 40%
Non-violent resistance 45%
160 British Home Office – not a “pro-gun” organization by any means"
This is a direct quote from Gun Facts version 5.1 copyright 2009 page 28. I will trust them over some hoplophobe running off at the mouth. If you don't have Gun Facts I suggest you download it now, it's free. Gun Facts - Gun Control | Facts | Debunk | Myths
Lavon
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So true. Liberal environmentalist are the worst.
I worked in an environmental field for almost 20 years doing research on bio-control methods for nuisance plants. There came a time when "funding" was scarce. It really opens your eyes to the moral-less individuals for whom you work.
Stats can be "made" to show anything. :to_pick_ones_nose:
OngoingFreedom
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Thank you. That was useful.
