What mental illness ??
If I've taken an anti depressent for anxiety, is that necessarily a "mental Illness?"
Point being, it's very subjective in my opinion. If I've been committed to a psych ward under unvoluntary conditions and diagnosed with Schizophrenia then I can see the point, but as mentioned, just taking an anti depressent for something like anxiety or enduring the loss of a loved one is not a "mental Illness" in my opinion.
It's very subjective and yet the queston that is asked on the application leaves much to be open to discussion.
Some states use the term "adjudicated." This leaves far less in the hands of unaccountable people and more in the hands of the courts. It is not simply enough to be found to be mentally ill. It requires that a court declare it.
In some of those states, you're free to own a firearm again after the court decides that you're no longer a threat to yourself or others. It seems like a reasonable compromise. There are still some issues, but it's better than letting a simple doctor deny your rights.
Some states use the term "adjudicated." This leaves far less in the hands of unaccountable people and more in the hands of the courts. It is not simply enough to be found to be mentally ill. It requires that a court declare it.
In some of those states, you're free to own a firearm again after the court decides that you're no longer a threat to yourself or others. It seems like a reasonable compromise. There are still some issues, but it's better than letting a simple doctor deny your rights.
In order to be denied your 2A rights by federal law you must be adjudicated or have been committed to a mental institution. If you voluntarily enter a mental institution it does not effect your rights. If a VA employee says you lose your rights if you are diagnosed with PTSD they are wrong! Period!
They're not denying your 2A rights, they're denying your CCW PRIVILEGES.
As for the VA, they might make it a stipulation on receiving benefits-- i.e. you have to choose between your gun and your income.
In WA State, It says you can not carry a weapon if you have been commited to a mental hospital or government recognized in-patient mental hospital. You can not carry in these establishments either. But with a CCW you can carry in a regular mental health facility, such as a check in, check out for normal mental health care issues, that does not have an inpatient attachment. So, as long as you have not been commited you are ok to carry in WA. I would speak with a lawyer to see if any of your state laws prohibit you from carrying legaly. If not, I would check no. My gun stores have stated the same thing to me, when I first purchased my own firearm. I also noticed this question.
The operative phrase in this an most others is, "Been Committed." This means someone else got you committed to a mental institution. Voluntarily seeking treatment is not normally a disqualifier.
They tried in on the Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, political disidents, those with birth defects, and other undesirables.
AND Now we have Obamacare.
As I said earlier in this thread, this whole gun control mania is going to take on a new approach.
The Obamacare bill has soo many invasions into our privacy and freedom Katie bar the door :wacko:
When Supreme Chancellor Palpatine Obama was giving his speach following the passage of the health care deform bill, I was reminded of a quote Natalie Portman made in Star Wars Episode III. "So this is how liberty dies, to thunderous applause."
In NH you must be declared by the court to be mentally ill. No court ruleing, no problem. Isn't it ironic that if you come back from deployment and P.T.S.D. gives you a problem, you can not get a Licence to carry. However, if they want to send you back into theater,That's OK. I'll take a vet with issues over the bad guys any day.
So far there's nothing available in any medical history to LEO's during review of your CCP unless you've been adjudicated in a court of law. What's between you and your doctor is privileged. (SO FAR). If you feel a need to report a medical issue on your application, so be it. I would not otherwise disclose any personal medical history.
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining! John Wayne
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