Kimber or Rock Island?

I was thinking more on the order of primer/powder degradation/decay. A number of years ago, while living way out in the middle of nowhere I had about a decade of mistakes, or reloads I was not happy with. I had a fire pit that I dumped a coffee can into. Backing a safe distance, I lit the fire and it was a good show. I want to emphasize the fact I was literally miles from a road, path or occupied structure, no children or animals were within fragging range. No lead in the water issues, no groundwater or red squirrels were in danger. (I want to be eco-friendly [Politically correct] and most defiantly tongue in cheek)

I had this discussion the other day based on info I've gleaned over the years. The more arid the enviornment the better it is for ammo storage. In such areas even ammo stored in unsealed containers (i.e. exposed to the air, not in sardine can cases) can be good for 20+ years at the very least. I live in an ammo-killing enviornment....year-round humidity and a close proximity to the ocean. 5-10 years max is what I've seen for recommendations in an area like mine.
 
I would go with a RI over a Kimber unless the Kimber was a Clackamas one then
you would have a outstanding gun!!!
 
I would go with a RI over a Kimber unless the Kimber was a Clackamas one then
you would have a outstanding gun!!!

Was the Clackamas Mall CC'er weapon a Kimber? Kimber doesn't make a Clackamas pistol. Unless it's new on the list of pistols that I haven't heard about.

Update: The first 5,000-6,000 Kimbers were rollmarked "CLACKAMAS,OR" because that's where the comapny had their offices, and for legal reasons it was best to put that on there. Every Kimber (except for one, as I understand) was actually manufactured in the "YONKERS,NY" facility, and the rollmark was changed to reflect that upon the move of home base operations there.
The older "Clackamas" Kimbers are fairly sought after as they were done with more care and seem to be a much better pistol than the newer series II made todayPost #4
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Clackamas is where Kimber started and these are some fine 1911's many think their the best Kimber produced ever. Kimber and then Sig. had a CEO known as the Cohen era which hurt both alot as far as reliability. I as Todd Green still think Sig.s are a toss up if getting a good one. Kimber not sure of their QC now but i see on 1911 forum's their a toss up too YMMV. I'm not into 1911's but if i was i would buy one from Mars Armament, Inc. - Custom Colt 1911 Pistols & AR-15 Rifles but my EDC HK45c is just outstanding in a Milt Spark's VMII...
 
Checkout the factory trigger on a Magnum Research 1911G.

My brother was in the next lane over from a guy shooting a Kimber, when the Kimber's hammer broke.

The cussing could be heard over the range noise, he said.
 
Never owned a RIA but dollar for dollar they have a great rep. I`ve owned/own Colts and Springers. Ironically my favorite is the cheapest loaded Springer PX9109LP. The price has kept me from Kimber but I will say we have a great 1911 gunsmith in my area and he was well know when he ran the shop for Kimber in Yonkers......Chuck Lutz.
 
I own a RIA 1911 Tactical and while I love the design of the 1911 and think it's a beautiful pistol it has turned me off from all other 1911s. The issue is that I have experienced multiple failure to feeds from the gun within just a couple hundred rounds (4-5 failures maybe?) and I simply can't trust it for anything more than the occasional lead slinging at the range. I was looking at sending it back to RIA but doubt it would do much good as I have find no sure fire way to replicate the jamming - it appears to be pretty random.
 
Interesting comment about the reliability of a Sig being a toss up. My P238 is outstanding, but gun tests had two horrible experiences with the bigger P938.

now, back to your originally scheduled thread.....
 
Interesting comment about the reliability of a Sig being a toss up. My P238 is outstanding, but gun tests had two horrible experiences with the bigger P938.

now, back to your originally scheduled thread.....

The 238 is actually a Colt design. The 938 was all Sig. They tried to scale the 238 up for the larger cartridge.

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