Human being are stupid, they just are.

Treo

Bullet Proof
This is another one of my human beings are stupid threads,

To lay out the scene: four way intersection I have the right of way the other guy has a stop sign. I’m driving South in the right lane and turning right onto my street, he is facing West and turning left into my lane in a pick up with a trailer. As I approach the intersection I hit my turn signal and prepare to turn right when he pulls completely out in front of me to turn left with his truck. I laid on the horn (my first mistake) and turned out of his way, he continues south.

Now for the rant:

I drive down the block pull into my driveway park the car and get out to open the garage door. My wife walks out on the porch and guess who comes down the street? Apparently this guy has circled the block and come back looking for me. He turns his truck and trailer around (for which I give him kudos because I couldn’t have done it on my street) pulls up in front of my drive way , gets out and commences to read me the riot act.

Now this guy is at least 70, might weigh 130 and is about 5’ 3” While I am 20 years younger, 100 pounds heavier (and can bench press my body weight) and four inches taller and he wants to fight me.
So I meet this guy at the end of my driveway, I blade up to him hold out my hand and say, in my best security guard voice, “Sir, this is private property, you are not welcome here, please leave.” He blades up as well and starts mocking me (my wife is on the front porch doing her best not to laugh) and then invites me into the street to “settle it” (so it’s less illegal if he “whups my ass” in the street than on my driveway?). At this point I tell you guy “You have a good day sir”, turn to walk away and he starts cussing again. (My wife is beet red at this point).

That’s when I lost it. I stopped, I turned around and in my mind I really wanted to ask the guy the same question I ask you guys (about people like him) all the time; “what in the Hell is going through your head mister? Do you not realize that if you keep dicking around with random strangers like this sooner or later one of them is going to either kick your ass or shoot you?” I actually began to ask him “Mr. do you see how I’m dressed?” The thought I was going for was you see I’m in a guard uniform, did it ever occur to you that I might be armed and that I might take exception to your tone of voice? But I guess my wife knows me better than I thought because she told me to shut up and come in the house as soon as the first part came out of my mouth.

FWIW she heard the whole exchange and says that I didn’t hear most of what the guy said. She said that he repeated several times that he didn’t like me honking at him and she says that if I had simply acknowledged that and apologized he would have left. I’m guessing she’s right.

The other thing I noticed is that he kept going back to his truck then coming back at me and both DW and I think he had some kind of weapon in there. I have assured my wife that with that much difference in our relative size and strength he would have had to produce a gun before I would have shot him but she doesn’t believe me.

So about that time I think the guy came to his senses because he got back in the truck and told me “You will see me again.” He then informed that that wasn’t meant as a threat (then what was it meant as?) and drove away.

And once again I’m left asking you all are these people stupid?

And let me get this out of the way, I am fully aware that had I had the brains to not lay on the horn you wouldn’t be reading this
 
Can't fix stupid.

A few years ago an over the hill wannabe biker in a utility van wanted to fight me in McDonald's parking lot LMFAO!

I was twice his size. Not saying much considering I'm 6'0" and 190 LOL.

Funny how stupid people get really mad when you laugh at them :p
 
The reason I just can’t understand the thought process in people like this is that it’s something I would never do.

As I’ve posted before numerous times I make it a rule not to trifle with people I don’t know because I have won what I call the psycho lottery and have had people respond completely disproportionately to what I thought was a minor comment or an action I took. I have learned my lesson well, I know people are crazy and unpredictable and I don’t mess with them. So, it amazes me when I see someone who does.
 
Stupid is as stupid does. Most people don't understand how 4 way stops are supposed to work. I see standoffs all the time where nobody moves and also the "polite" ones that motion the wrong ones to go first.

Lately I give the people about 2 seconds. If no one moves I go, no matter where I am in regards to who's first. Otherwise, it seems no one will move.
 
Stupid is as stupid does. Most people don't understand how 4 way stops are supposed to work. I see standoffs all the time where nobody moves and also the "polite" ones that motion the wrong ones to go first.

Lately I give the people about 2 seconds. If no one moves I go, no matter where I am in regards to who's first. Otherwise, it seems no one will move.

Ok thanks for the traffic lesson, no part of this incident occurred at a 4 way stop
 
I can see where carracer may have thought 4-way stop with the 4-way intersection statement. But anyway.

Looks to me like the guy say your turn signal come on, assumed you were turning and took that as it being okay to pull out. Most likely felt he had room since you would be turning anyway.
NOT saying his actions were correct, just how I see it from your description.

Would I have pulled out to turn? Not a chance as I trust no one, you could have been signaling a turn into the drivewasy just past the intersection. I ride/drive defensively. Look at other traffic as one of two types of drivers. Those who don't see me and those who don't care.

But I also wouldn't have hit the horn. Spending most of my time driving in or near Detroit, I tend to avoid road rage or the possiblilty of it as much as possible. To me, not worth the stress or hassle to argue with stupid.

What is that saying? "Don't argue with stupid people, the will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
 
In younger years (long, long ago) I had a similar experience when someone honked at me when I had the right of way at a stop. He honked several times, while we were both nearly bumper to bumper. Being the calm, cool type I was, at that age and about 5' 7" @ 185 and ripped, I jumped out of my car and asked the other driver if he'd like that horn shoved up his a$$(yes, I did threaten him, in a way)! Then I noticed his girlfriend in the passenger seat. Turns out she was the one who reached over and started honking his horn. I didn't extend her the same offer, however.

Got back in my car, backed-up, and continued on my way.

I made a mental note never to do that again, no matter how pi$$ed-off I was. Stupid, I could have been shot, or who knows what?
 
I really do not trust most people on the road. Just the other day I was at a stop light waiting for the left turn arrow. When it came on I started to go and make my left turn and a young girl came across the intersection. If I had not hit the brakes she would have hit me. She had been sitting at the light and when the green arrow came on here she came. I did not hit the horn or anything but when I looked in my rear view mirror the driver behind me was shaking his head and laughing at her stupidity.

What worries me is they breed more idiots!!!!
 
It's the crazy ones who are most dangerous. But as said before you can't fix stupid. People like that wait for you to lose it and then they dial the police. Guess who loses then. Glad it didn't go further.
 
It's the crazy ones who are most dangerous. But as said before you can't fix stupid. People like that wait for you to lose it and then they dial the police. Guess who loses then. Glad it didn't go further.

As I mentioned in the OP he kept going to his truck. I think his intent was for me to follow him so he could justify pullinng out whatever weapon he had
 
This was pointed out on another forum so I want to clarify it here.

4 way intersection but I didn't have to stop and I couldn't see his signal (not that I would have trusted it anyway). The guy pulled out so far to turn that it looked like he was going straight across the intersection that's why I honked
 
The reason I just can’t understand the thought process in people like this is that it’s something I would never do.

As I’ve posted before numerous times I make it a rule not to trifle with people I don’t know because I have won what I call the psycho lottery and have had people respond completely disproportionately to what I thought was a minor comment or an action I took. I have learned my lesson well, I know people are crazy and unpredictable and I don’t mess with them. So, it amazes me when I see someone who does.

I know the feeling. Some people are just stupid and looking for trouble. When I was much younger and before the back surgeries, I worked as a bouncer in a cowboy bar for extra money.
I come in for the night shift and one of the "regulars" there was sitting at the bar. Now mind you, I don't start the fights, I just break them up and escort time from the building. Unless theres a weapon used and some one is injured, I hold them for the police.
Now this guy has seen me throw men out of this bar that were larger than me. (I'm 6'4" and 245 then) He's 150 soaking wet and about 5'4" with a pot belly. I set down a couple of stools down from him. order a soda. I turn and in a cordial tone say,"How ya' doin'?" He jumps up and hollers,"What the F**k do you mean by that you sob?" All red in the face. And TAKES A SWING at me!
Some people are just stupid. You can't fix stupid.
 

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