how often to clean a unshot carry gun?


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i have a beretta nano and carry it daily in either a barsony owb holster or tagua iwb holster. now every night when i take it off i remove the gun from the holster and wipe it down with a lightly oiled rag and store it out of the holster. i only get to shoot it about once a month or so, but i take it apart and clean it after its shot. however it can go a month if not a month and half with out firing it, should i clean it between shootings or will it be ok with a wipe down till i clean it in 4-6 weeks? thanks for any help.
 

I'll quickly break down and wipe down my safe firearms (take out once every couple months...maybe) before a range session, then clean them thoroughly after the range.

My carry guns and rifle are getting 50 - 100 rounds every other week, and I clean them thoroughly every three months.

I skeet/trap every Sunday, I don't clean my shotguns until they start sticking.

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My EDC is a G23. Maybe gets about 50 rounds a month through it. My G22 is my go to USPSA gun. See's about 250 to 300 rounds a month. I clean them both every 3 or 4 months whether they need it or not.
 
I use FrogLube on my EDC's; not on all my guns, (Because I'm too lazy.) but on my EDC pistols. The stuff is amazing! Once it's put on right, according to the manufacturer's directions, you don't have to touch the gun for months - Months! If it gets wet just wipe it down with a soft cloth; and, maybe, run a dry patch through the barrel.

The right way to clean a gun (barrel) after using it is to clean it once; and, then, clean it again two or three days later. This will get rid of any, 'residual gases' and other microscopic crud that leach out of the steel rather than only the obvious crud that sits on top of it. If I'm not frequently shooting a gun then I always clean it twice, with a good 24 hours between cleanings.

This said: I always clean my guns within a day or two after using them; often I'll do the first cleaning while I'm still at the range. (I don't like to holster a dirty weapon because the soot often ends up all over my clothes!) Then during the next day, or so, I'll scrub the barrel out again and polish it with either Flitz metal polish, or FrogLube. I've used Flitz for more than a decade, now; but, so far, the FrogLube has been working better.

(The soft Carnauba wax in Flitz wears off more quickly, and needs to be touched up after about a month; but FrogLube seems to just last, and last, and last! Unlike the commercial auto polish protectants Smith & Wesson has, for a long time now, recommended that I use, FrogLube has yet to build up any residual coating on my guns; and it wears off very slowly.)
 
The right way to clean a gun (barrel) after using it is to clean it once; and, then, clean it again two or three days later. This will get rid of any, 'residual gases' and other microscopic crud that leach out of the steel rather than only the obvious crud that sits on top of it. If I'm not frequently shooting a gun then I always clean it twice, with a good 24 hours between cleanings.

I've never heard this before, and Google didn't come up with anything quick. Do you have a source I can read more about this?

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I've never heard this before, and Google didn't come up with anything quick. Do you have a source I can read more about this?

What would people do without Google? Humanity would probably have to start out all over again; wouldn't it!

This is old information, Chen. It's been around for decades. Most of the NRA competition riflemen I used to shoot with were well aware of the need to remove impregnated residual gas and firing residue two or three days after the initial cleaning. Suggest you rev up that search engine some more.

Here's one article I found. Read Ed Harris' 1994 comments on using, 'Ed's Red' cleaning solution. A Clean Barrel. (Toward the bottom of the page)

Why have I continued to clean gun barrels like this for all these years? I'm careful to clean any gun barrel twice on any gun that I intend to store in the safe for an indeterminate period-of-time. There ARE elements in gunpowder that, over time, can cause rust or pitting to occur underneath an oil topcoat. I've got 40 + year old guns in my safe with bores that have been well used and, still, look brand new!
 
Most of the NRA competition riflemen I used to shoot with were well aware of the need to remove impregnated residual gas and firing residue two or three days after the initial cleaning.

Here's one article I found. Read Ed Harris' 1994 comments on using, 'Ed's Red' cleaning solution. A Clean Barrel. (Toward the bottom of the page)

Is it the powder or the corrosive primers that suggest the need for cleaning twice?

" It is ALWAYS good practice to clean TWICE, TWO DAYS APART whenever using chlorate primed ammunition, just to make sure you get all the residue out."

How much ammunition and reloading material still use corrosive primers?

Does the advancement in ultra sonic cleaners negate a second cleaning?

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Polytetrafluoroethylene, which is a component of many cleaners is known/reputed to continue to pull carbon from the pores in metal even after the initial application is wiped away. Combine that with the military's inclination to conduct 'white glove' inspections on stored firearms (instead of letting them absorb lubricating oils) is what's formed many people's idea of what 'clean' is.

I give my guns the same 'clean room' attention that I give my car's engine; I tear down and rebuild the motor for three days in a row after every trip to the corner store. It's the only way to really be sure the motor is clean and will work the next day, .... right?


On a serious note, I'll wipe down my carry gun every couple of months, sooner if I notice any dirt on it. The important thing is to keep it lubricated. A lubed but dirty gun will work longer than a clean but dry gun.
 
I was taught the same thing in the Marine Corps with regards to follow up cleaning for residual carbon and fouling, though I don’t believe it’s done routinely anymore. Late 70’s early 80’s I recall the requirement to do it 2 or 3 days following qualification on the range, etc., but don’t recall doing that later on. Probably ancestor worship, as the ammo we were using did not have corrosive primers, etc., but not so long ago in the “institution’s historical memory” they did. Corrosive primers/powders aren’t common anymore, unless you’re shooting some old military surplus ammo that can still be found out there. If you are shooting that stuff I would strongly recommend follow up cleaning, because, well, that stuff is corrosive, and I guarantee you’ll find it in your barrel a few days later even after a thorough cleaning. I’ve always found that if I put a couple of hundred rounds or so through a firearm, clean it thoroughly (last patch clean as a whistle), if I go back a few days later and run a patch through it will come out gray, sometimes black. I don’t worry about that though, and I don’t do “3 day follow up” cleaning on my firearms. I’m not shooting any known corrosive stuff though.
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In response to the OP, the answer is “it depends!” Since you’re talking about an EDC “duty” firearm, I hope you continue to at least look at and/or wipe down the firearm daily as you are now doing. You want that thing to work first time every time, so keep it functionally clean at all times. Whether it needs a more detailed cleaning depends on what you’ve exposed it to. Did it get wet or sweat soaked? Is there a lot of dust/lint/dirt/grime etc., on it? If there is do a quick cleaning just to remove that stuff and keep corrosion at bay if it got wet/sweaty. Don’t forget to check the magazines. Dirty magazines are a primary source of malfunctions. Even if I haven’t fired my EDC firearm, at least once a week I will break it down and look it over, wipe off what needs wiping off, re-lube if necessary, etc. I always find some lint and dust in there when I do this, and you just don’t want and shouldn’t have that stuff building up in your duty firearm. This type of inspection/cleaning has never taken me more than 5 minutes.
 
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Well, I don't know why the word "patch" automatically comes out as a link to Amazon for buying gun-cleaning patches, but I didn't do that intentionally, and can't seem to turn that off.
 
Is it the powder or the corrosive primers that suggest the need for cleaning twice?

" It is ALWAYS good practice to clean TWICE, TWO DAYS APART whenever using chlorate primed ammunition, just to make sure you get all the residue out." How much ammunition and reloading material still use corrosive primers? Does the advancement in ultra sonic cleaners negate a second cleaning?

Do whatever you like! As I said: 'This is old information'; it's been around for a long time, and applies to BOTH corrosive and noncorrosive primers.
 
thanks every one for your help, i took my nano down today and cleaned. it had not been apart since mid march, i cleaned and relubed.
 
I clean and lube my pistols after range shooting. Then every 3 weeks I just break them down and put a drop or two of oil on the rails.
 
Firefighterchen, I spent a little time looking around the internet. Here’s a number of underlying reasons why, even with the improvements in modern primer chemicals, it remains a good idea to clean a dirty gun barrel once; and, then, clean it again two or three days later - A practice a lot of the expert marksmen I used to regularly shoot with followed for many years; and I suspect there are quite a few of us left who still do. (Although, as I’ve previously said: I truly don’t care how any of you clean your guns.)

Debunking the Myths Behind Causes of Rust on Firearms

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Whether the primers were potassium chloride, or lead styphnate didn’t matter. The only barrels we didn’t clean twice, like this, were the ones that contained deposits of molybdenum disulfide. These barrels did tend to be more accurate; however, raw moly is both more wearing, and hygroscopic. Consequently, moly-coated barrels invariably tended to wear out faster.

It's amazing how ego gets in the way of information. I'll post this in the right thread, and remove all the insults.

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I have found that even if you do not shoot very often and use a leather holster to carry with, that sometimes your gun will get tiny fibers of leather in the gun. I clean mine once a month even if I don't have time to go to the range.
 
I use synthetic oils & grease and clean & lubricate after every shooting session. If I don't shoot, I re-lube every three months, even though there's no need.
 
I shoot my carry gun regularly (and typically clean it right afterwards). If I didn't, I'd probably take it down once a month just to refresh the oil.
 
I've never heard this before, and Google didn't come up with anything quick. Do you have a source I can read more about this?

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It's amazing how ego gets in the way of information. I'll post this in the right thread, and remove all the insults.

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Well, it took me awhile! 'Back in the day' I'd been thoroughly trained in this procedure; and during the 70's and 80's this data frequently appeared in various forms of gun literature; but, admittedly, I'm getting older and a little forgetful. When I tried to remember, I couldn't find this information anywhere on the Net. (Actually, in large part, you still can't. It's only older marksmen like myself who, rather apparently, still recall this sort of knowledge.)

Not as a favor to you because you and your buddy, in my considered opinion, have really fresh mouths; but, in vindication of my own training, here is an authoritative source for you to reflect upon. In particular notice that corrosive primers are NOT LISTED as a principal cause for the necessity of repeated cleaning. (Got it!) No, 'thank you' is necessary; and, now, you know what you can do with your own considerable ego - Yes! :wink:

* US Marine Corps FMFRP 0-11A - M40A1 Sniper Rifle - April 1989, 'Cleaning The Rifle', Pages 10 & 11.

WHEN TO CLEAN THE M40A1 ~

BEFORE FIRING: The rifle MUST ALWAYS be cleaned prior to departing on a mission, or firing the weapon on a range. If not cleaned prior to firing, t he extra solvent or lubrication remaining in the bore will cause a puff of smoke or steam, and possibly allow detection by the enemy. Also, the extra fluids cause an increase in chamber pressure that cause an increase in elevation of the first round fired.

AFTER FIRING: The rifle must be cleaned after it is fired because firing produces deposits of: (1) primer fouling, (2) powder residue, (3) carbon, and (4) metal filings. These deposits collect moisture and cause rust. Although modern ammunition has a noncorrosive primer which makes cleaning easier, the primer still leaves a deposit.

The rifle must be cleaned within a reasonable time interval (a couple of hours) after completion of firing. Repeated firing will not injure the rifle if it is properly cleaned prior to the first round. After a weapon has been fired, it must be cleaned for, at least, three consecutive days. For several days after firing, check the rifle for signs of corrosion and fouling by running a clean patch through the bore.

Graphite and carbon deposits will sweat from the pores of the metal for three days. Thus, the need for repeated cleaning.

* US Marine Corps FMFRP 0-11A - M40A1 Sniper Rifle - April 1989 - Documents
 

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