Hell


Ringo

A WATCHMAN
Some folks will be very angry over this article, and that is exactly where Satan wants you to be. A few have contacted me in the past with hostility leaping from the page because they won’t accept the truth. Don’t allow Satan to make a fool out of you, by your not realizing the truth until it is too late. For some reason, Satan wants to take as many with him as possible. Why? It is partly because the Devil competes (in his mind) against Almighty God. His concern for mankind is the opposite of 2 Peter 3:9, “… not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” My prayer is that many will see the truth of this horrible place and come to Jesus now before it is too late.

Grant Phillips




This is not a subject we delight in talking about, but in order to speak the truth, we must tell the whole truth, not just part of it. If we only tell part of the truth, then is it really the truth? No, it is not. Unfortunately, the subject of hell is ignored in most churches today. Rarely, does one hear it mentioned in the pulpits of America. Fifty years ago and earlier it was often preached upon. Twenty-five years ago, not so much. Today, not only is it rarely mentioned, but many are saying that there is no hell. Well, is there or isn’t there, and if there is, what is it like?

I realize that the Hebrew term “sheol” usually refers to the grave or death and not always specifically to hell. However, the Greek term “hades” usually refers to hell as a place of torment (Luke 10:15; 16:23) and the Greek term “gehenna” always refers to hell as a place of torment (Matthew 5:30; 23:33). In Revelation 20:14-15 the Apostle John writes of the “lake of fire,” where those who rejected Jesus Christ will be sent after the resurrection.

On the brighter side, are places mentioned in the Bible for those who put their faith in Jesus Christ while upon this earth. “Abraham’s bosom” (Luke 16:22) was a place of rest for believers prior to the cross. The thief on the cross who put his trust in Jesus went to “paradise,” after his death. The Apostle Paul mentions being “with the Lord” in Philippians 1:23; 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and 2 Corinthians 5:8 which is where all believers go after death. Then there is the “new heaven and new earth” of Revelation 21:1-4, where all believers will be after the resurrection.

Hell is a real place and everyone will go to either heaven or hell after physical death and exist forever. (Daniel 12:2; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28-29; Revelation 20:14-15) What determines our final eternal destination? The determining factor is whether or not we have put our trust in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. (John 3:16, 36)

The Bible makes it clear that hell was originally prepared for Satan and his angelic followers. (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10)

Some people believe that there just might be a hell, but if there is, they will get a second chance. To the contrary, hell is eternal and irreversible. Once there, there is no going back, or second chance. (Revelation 14:11; 20:14-15) Also, the next event following death is not a second chance but judgment (Hebrews 9:27).

Others think that there will be no suffering, but only a separation from God. However, Matthew 13:50; Mark 9:48 and Revelation 14:10 speak of conscious torment.

I’ve heard some say that mankind just dies like an animal. They’re dead and there is no further existence. However, this argument denies the resurrection of the lost and conscious torment mentioned above.

The popular belief today seems to be universalism, the belief that all mankind are children of God and all will be saved in the end. This belief is totally contrary to the Word of God. First of all, God is the Creator of all mankind, but He is not the Father of all mankind. He is only the Father of those who come to Him through faith in His Son Jesus Christ, denying all else and depending only upon Him.

Are there degrees of torment in hell? Yes, the Bible makes this clear. Jesus said in Luke 10:10-12, “But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city. Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you. And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.” (Luke 10:10-15) He also said, “And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.” (Revelation 20:13)

The main objections I hear to the reality of hell are that (1) God is love and would not send anyone to hell, (2) it would not be fair and (3) the punishment is too severe for the crime.

1- It is true that God is love. It is also true that because of His love, He rescues those who seek Him through His Son Jesus.

2- I don’t believe being fair has anything to do with it. If God were fair, He would send us all to hell.

3- I also do not believe that hell is as much a “punishment” for sin, as it is a “result” of sin. In other words, it is not punishment in the sense of “penance,” but punishment in the sense of “penalty or consequence.”

I have already stated that hell was originally created for Satan and his followers. His followers consist of those angels who followed Satan in rebellion against God, and also those of mankind who choose Satan over God by denying His Son Jesus. This is rebellion against God. Hell is real, and those who die without Christ will spend eternity in torment because they choose this destination. To not choose Jesus Christ as the only way to the Father, is to choose hell. “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

God is holy. Sin is rebellion against God. Therefore sin is the antithesis of holiness. Sin and God cannot co-exist. Sin deserves hell. We are born in sin. Therefore, we deserve hell. What could God do to make it possible for sinful man to live in His presence? He had to make man holy too, by removing all his sin. How? By the sacrifice of His own Son, Jesus, all who come to the Father through His Son, will be made holy. (2 Corinthians 5:21) There is no other way. All who do not come to Him through His Son remain in their sin and cannot be in God’s presence. Those who refuse His Son choose to remain in their sin and choose hell as their eternal destiny. No one can live in God’s presence unless they are compatible. Only He can make us compatible. If we refuse His offer, we choose the alternative by default.

God created hell and all its torments for Satan and his followers, but why such a horrible place? Why couldn’t He just completely eliminate their existence, instead of their suffering the torments of hell for eternity? I do not know the answer to either of those questions, but it does convince me of the holiness of God and the seriousness of sin. There are many things we simply do not and cannot understand on this side of the grave. The reality of hell is one.

The important thing to remember is that it was important enough to God for Him to make the ultimate sacrifice in offering the only way of escape for those who will choose it. He gave Himself as a sacrifice in our place to satisfy His own justice. If there is no hell or if it is not as bad as the Bible clearly says, then why would God go to that extreme, to offer the only way of escape, to those who will accept it?

~ Everyone In HELL Is A Believer...It's Just Too Late ~
 

In the Bible, doesn't god kill many, many, many times more innocent people than satan does?

The fictional lead character in the book of short stories known as the buy-bull is one very unpleasant murdering SOB. Millions (documented in this buy-bull) have been murder directly by him or under his direction, and in one of his epic hissy fits, he murdered 99.99999% of all life (not included in the 2.4 million head count) on the planet. And people continue to worship this sick bastard?

Satan = 10
 
The fictional lead character in the book of short stories known as the buy-bull is one very unpleasant murdering SOB. Millions (documented in this buy-bull) have been murder directly by him or under his direction, and in one of his epic hissy fits, he murdered 99.99999% of all life (not included in the 2.4 million head count) on the planet. And people continue to worship this sick bastard?

Satan = 10

John 3:16 "For Yahweh (God) so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, Yeshua (Jesus the Christ), that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17"For Yahweh (God) did not send His Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the only begotten Son of Yahweh(God).…

John 12:46 Yeshua(Jesus the Christ) said; "I have come as the Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain lost in the darkness. 47"If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48"He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the Word that I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.

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You can reject Him and call Him foul name's if you wish (to your own folly)....
But in the end, everyone shall bow before Him.
And rightfully so, for He is both our true King and our Saviour (whether you believe in Him or not).
Amen.
 
Here is some knowledge;

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None of wich changes the fact that no one knows exactly what word(s) were spoken to Moses becuase the Jewish scribes felt that actually writing the name that "The Deity" used would be disrespectful of said Deity.

Yahweh is not "The Deity's" name
 
The fictional lead character in the book of short stories known as the buy-bull is one very unpleasant murdering SOB. Millions (documented in this buy-bull) have been murder directly by him or under his direction, and in one of his epic hissy fits, he murdered 99.99999% of all life (not included in the 2.4 million head count) on the planet. And people continue to worship this sick bastard?

Satan = 10

God does not murder. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Be careful when you mock your God...he also listens! Your soul is his to do with as he sees it necessary whether you believe it or not. Do not tempt him to greatly.
 
Excuse my ignorance but if god or Yahoo, Yeehaw or whatever you kids are calling him nowadays has the ability to 'taketh' away, why would he subject a child with brain cancer (as an example) to suffer weeks or months or even years before succumbing to death? That seems almost vengeful for a merciful god doesn't it? Does he endorse suffering?

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Excuse my ignorance but if god or Yahoo, Yeehaw or whatever you kids are calling him nowadays has the ability to 'taketh' away, why would he subject a child with brain cancer (as an example) to suffer weeks or months or even years before succumbing to death? That seems almost vengeful for a merciful god doesn't it? Does he endorse suffering?

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No, He does not endorse suffering.....
Unfortunately Satan (Lucifer) is the current ruler of this world and Satan is the one who has brought cancer's (and other diseases) upon mankind. Satan's ultimate goal is to turn mankind against their Creator (Yahweh) and their Saviour (Yeshua/Jesus) through suffering and torment.
While I can greatly sympathize with & understand your anger/frustration with Yahweh (God) for even allowing these suffering's to happen upon innocent men, women & children, I must ask you to place the true blame where it belong's.
It is Satan (Lucifer) who causes all of these suffering's and torment's upon mankind and this world, because Satan know's that his/her time is short and Satan hate's mankind with a jealous & venemous rage.
Pray daily for Yeshua's (Jesus') guidance & protection, for Satan's end is most certainly coming.
 
Excuse my ignorance but if god or Yahoo, Yeehaw or whatever you kids are calling him nowadays has the ability to 'taketh' away, why would he subject a child with brain cancer (as an example) to suffer weeks or months or even years before succumbing to death? That seems almost vengeful for a merciful god doesn't it? Does he endorse suffering?

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You forgot about the greatest suffering of all...his son Jesus Christ. Our life is not about suffering or not suffering. It is about obedience to God's commandments which most of us fall way short of. It is about us accepting Christ as our Savior...that is all. God takes no pleasure in a child dying of a brain tumor or of one dying of bullet wounds in the streets of Chicago. God provides man with a free will and a mortal body, all of which we will succumb too in time. You were never promised eternal and healthy living on earth. The promise is for eternal life somewhere of your choosing after the mortal body fails to go vertical. The choice is not God's as he provides you the will to make the choice. Your actions make your choice for eternity. Hope that helps.
 
It is Satan (Lucifer) who causes all of these suffering's and torment's upon mankind and this world, because Satan know's that his/her time is short and Satan hate's mankind with a jealous & venemous rage.
Pray daily for Yeshua's (Jesus') guidance & protection, for Satan's end is most certainly coming.
The overwhelming attacks against Christians the past few weeks are evidence demons are bouncing off the proverbial walls in some kind of frenzy. Yup, the filthy little minions of Lucifer ( dad45acp, XD40scinNC, nosreme, nogods, maine04619 & Kwimby) are working overtime not only against us, but from what I can surmise, Christians in general. The sense I get is, they know the time they've looked forward to for so long is finally here, and they're eager to get the party started! Satan is this close to enjoying his heyday with his perverted trinity, he can hardly stand it! Only problem is, we're still here! The evil is palpable now and increasing exponentially every day, but the Tribulation can't officially break open until Holy Spirit filled Christians are out of the way. And MAN, is that making the kingdom of darkness crazy! There are those of us who want nothing more than to complete our task here and vamoose to heaven. There is nothing on this earth that holds any enchantment or power over our hearts now. We're ready to lay everything in this life down and walk away; the rest of the world can have it all. We just want to go home but again, we're in the way. And that, my friends, is the very reason we're being attacked personally. While we remain on this earth, these demonic attacks are highly likely to increase in number and severity because we're tinkling on Satan's parade.

There is no doubt in my mind that the antichrist is waiting in the wings to be revealed. We who are watching and waiting for our Lord to call us home can feel in our gut that our time on this miserable earth is winding down, and many of us even sense a major game-changer coming soon. We can see how the New World Order society is shaping up. There is no doubt in my mind that the antichrist is waiting in the wings to be revealed. The False Prophet is already parading around in his churchy-royal robes and funny hat, blabbing the ecumenical, pluralistic lie that God is whatever you believe He is. Obamacare is all about control of the masses; the confiscation of highly detailed, personal information on every American, which will be stored and used against citizens in the future. During the Tribulation, the antichrist will have access to every aspect of people's lives. Those who don't toe the New World Order line will be eliminated. Patriotic, Constitution loving Christians will be enemy number one. Like I said before, the minions of Satan ( dad45acp, XD40scinNC, nosreme, nogods, maine04619 & Kwimby) are busy little beavers right now, getting ready for the dragon, beast and false prophet to exert their full influence and authority on this earth. I can assure these forces of evil the doorknob won't be hitting any of us in the back when Jesus calls us up!

MARANATHA!!
 
The overwhelming attacks against Christians the past few weeks are evidence demons are bouncing off the proverbial walls in some kind of frenzy. Yup, the filthy little minions of Lucifer ( dad45acp, XD40scinNC, nosreme, nogods & Kwimby) are working overtime not only against us, but from what I can surmise, Christians in general. The sense I get is, they know the time they've looked forward to for so long is finally here, and they're eager to get the party started! Satan is this close to enjoying his heyday with his perverted trinity, he can hardly stand it! Only problem is, we're still here! The evil is palpable now and increasing exponentially every day, but the Tribulation can't officially break open until Holy Spirit filled Christians are out of the way. And MAN, is that making the kingdom of darkness crazy! There are those of us who want nothing more than to complete our task here and vamoose to heaven. There is nothing on this earth that holds any enchantment or power over our hearts now. We're ready to lay everything in this life down and walk away; the rest of the world can have it all. We just want to go home but again, we're in the way. And that, my friends, is the very reason we're being attacked personally. While we remain on this earth, these demonic attacks are highly likely to increase in number and severity because we're tinkling on Satan's parade.

There is no doubt in my mind that the antichrist is waiting in the wings to be revealed. We who are watching and waiting for our Lord to call us home can feel in our gut that our time on this miserable earth is winding down, and many of us even sense a major game-changer coming soon. We can see how the New World Order society is shaping up. There is no doubt in my mind that the antichrist is waiting in the wings to be revealed. The False Prophet is already parading around in his churchy-royal robes and funny hat, blabbing the ecumenical, pluralistic lie that God is whatever you believe He is. Obamacare is all about control of the masses; the confiscation of highly detailed, personal information on every American, which will be stored and used against citizens in the future. During the Tribulation, the antichrist will have access to every aspect of people's lives. Those who don't toe the New World Order line will be eliminated. Patriotic, Constitution loving Christians will be enemy number one. Like I said before, the minions of Satan ( dad45acp, XD40scinNC, nosreme, nogods & Kwimby) are busy little beavers right now, getting ready for the dragon, beast and false prophet to exert their full influence and authority on this earth. I can assure these forces of evil the doorknob won't be hitting any of us in the back when Jesus calls us up!

MARANATHA!!

Wow. I'm under no satanic influence to have religious discussions on some cracker jack internet site with someone who is consistently outspoken about how right they are while everyone is wrong. You are filled with duress and hate. Lighten up a little. Your posts will always attract different opinions and counter points. Unless you're a troll, you should know this already but you certainly like to take your jabs. I AM a busy little beaver right now that consists of wood stacking and providing for my family. All of which has nothing to do with satan. Its clear that you've lost your marbles. Why else would you verbally assault those with made up screen names just because there is a simple disagreement?

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You forgot about the greatest suffering of all...his son Jesus Christ. Our life is not about suffering or not suffering. It is about obedience to God's commandments which most of us fall way short of. It is about us accepting Christ as our Savior...that is all. God takes no pleasure in a child dying of a brain tumor or of one dying of bullet wounds in the streets of Chicago. God provides man with a free will and a mortal body, all of which we will succumb too in time. You were never promised eternal and healthy living on earth. The promise is for eternal life somewhere of your choosing after the mortal body fails to go vertical. The choice is not God's as he provides you the will to make the choice. Your actions make your choice for eternity. Hope that helps.

This standard rhetoric is unresponsive to the question - in addition to being obnoxious on its face. It's also known as evading the question or, in political and media circles, ignoring the hard question but prepared with your own talking points on something else. The "god gave man free will" is an especially comical evasion--almost as funny as the old pat answer, "god works in strange and mysterious ways."
 
The overwhelming attacks against Christians the past few weeks are evidence demons are bouncing off the proverbial walls in some kind of frenzy. Yup, the filthy little minions of Lucifer ( dad45acp, XD40scinNC, nosreme, nogods & Kwimby) are working overtime not only against us, but from what I can surmise, Christians in general. The sense I get is, they know the time they've looked forward to for so long is finally here, and they're eager to get the party started! Satan is this close to enjoying his heyday with his perverted trinity, he can hardly stand it! Only problem is, we're still here! The evil is palpable now and increasing exponentially every day, but the Tribulation can't officially break open until Holy Spirit filled Christians are out of the way. And MAN, is that making the kingdom of darkness crazy! There are those of us who want nothing more than to complete our task here and vamoose to heaven. There is nothing on this earth that holds any enchantment or power over our hearts now. We're ready to lay everything in this life down and walk away; the rest of the world can have it all. We just want to go home but again, we're in the way. And that, my friends, is the very reason we're being attacked personally. While we remain on this earth, these demonic attacks are highly likely to increase in number and severity because we're tinkling on Satan's parade.

There is no doubt in my mind that the antichrist is waiting in the wings to be revealed. We who are watching and waiting for our Lord to call us home can feel in our gut that our time on this miserable earth is winding down, and many of us even sense a major game-changer coming soon. We can see how the New World Order society is shaping up. There is no doubt in my mind that the antichrist is waiting in the wings to be revealed. The False Prophet is already parading around in his churchy-royal robes and funny hat, blabbing the ecumenical, pluralistic lie that God is whatever you believe He is. Obamacare is all about control of the masses; the confiscation of highly detailed, personal information on every American, which will be stored and used against citizens in the future. During the Tribulation, the antichrist will have access to every aspect of people's lives. Those who don't toe the New World Order line will be eliminated. Patriotic, Constitution loving Christians will be enemy number one. Like I said before, the minions of Satan ( dad45acp, XD40scinNC, nosreme, nogods & Kwimby) are busy little beavers right now, getting ready for the dragon, beast and false prophet to exert their full influence and authority on this earth. I can assure these forces of evil the doorknob won't be hitting any of us in the back when Jesus calls us up!

Okay, okay! I'm convinced. I'll change my rational ways. Excuse me for leaving so soon, but I need to go out to buy some Ray Comfort books and publicly burn my large collection of philosophy, science, and secular humanism/atheism books. Old satanic rock 'n' roll records, too.
 
For the same reason that you do you stinking hypocrite. Wise up.

I can't believe you called me a hypocrite when hypocrisy is deeply rooted in your religious beliefs. I'm beyond wise not believing an internet evangelical preacher filled with hate. Its obvious that the internet is the only place that you can find followers to agree with your end times mumbo jumbo so you can feel your much needed affirmation. Neat.

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