Glock yes/no

[JaegerMann]

I know many a soldier who trained on M-14 in basic and deployed with M-16 and a comic book in Vietnam back in the 1960s, Back in the 1980s I know I qualified with a 45, but had to go with an 9mm in the field which one varied from time to time being pre M-92 standardization and various pistols were undergoing field trials. In the 1990s Many soldiers fired their first live rounds from their weapons (crew served tow etc) in combat during desert storm, only having fired simulators before. Even under modern combat tempo it is rare for most soldiers to get to fire more than 100 rounds a year if they are in a branch that re-qualifies for shooting annually (Army, Marines) branches that issue a ribbon (Air Force) once I know career folks who haven't touched a military personal weapon since qualification in basic/initial training, let alone fired one. (Not snubbing the other branches I simply don't know their standards off the top of my head) Congressional budgets and "green initiatives" make some VERY bizarre restrictions on our troops.

Retired US Army, former Cop, arms historian, basic old fart.

 

[whodat2710]

Why is this not done?

And thank you for not taking it as me being "preachy". In answer to your question, common sense and the military are not close friends when funding is involved. Now involve politicians trying to push government contracts for the manufacturer in their district/state and you get a soup sandwich.

 

[whodat2710]

I do find it odd that in today's military, if they decide to switch weapons on you that they would not give you the range time necessary to become proficient with that weapon. Our local Sheriff's Reserves make sure that each deputy gets the range time in that is necessary to become proficient... generally it's around 65 hours before going to qualifications (this includes a small amount of hours in the classroom too). I'm really surprised our military does not do this as well. I guess one more thing we can blame budget cut backs for.

I can take one apart and put it together with the best of 'em, that training's free. Bullets cost money, and military logic is "how can we afford more bullets, we just bought all these new guns?!?"

 

[wolf_fire]

I can take one apart and put it together with the best of 'em, that training's free. Bullets cost money, and military logic is "how can we afford more bullets, we just bought all these new guns?!?"

Shoot, with only 36 parts, I would hope that the least capable could take apart a Glock blindfolded.

So, am I to assume that with the federal government's 2 billion round order for ammunition, none of it is going to the military? (he asked tongue-in-cheek)

 

[neimess]

i LOVE my Glock27...I think the feel is perfect in my hand..

 

[whodat2710]

Shoot, with only 36 parts, I would hope that the least capable could take apart a Glock blindfolded.

I can field strip my Rugers for cleaning, and I have 5-7 counting the takedown pins. P-95 has 5 (spring and guide rod stay together) LC9 has 6, and LCP has 7 because of the doubled recoil springs.

 

[wolf_fire]

I can field strip my Rugers for cleaning, and I have 5-7 counting the takedown pins. P-95 has 5 (spring and guide rod stay together) LC9 has 6, and LCP has 7 because of the doubled recoil springs.

I meant 36 parts for a full takedown of the Glock... a fieldstrip should be able to be done blindfolded for any semi-auto.

 

[snatale42]

I have a Glock 17 and a S&W M&P9 - very similar pistols in most respects, both 9mm, 17 round magazine, polymer frame, etc. So far I just find the Glock more accurate in my hands. I will continue to practise with both, and maybe the differences will even out over time. I'm a believer in practising with a variety of handguns, so than if you're ever in a position where you need to fire a gun that isn't your favorite, you're not fumbling around with it.

Am I correct in assuming your owned the G17 before the M&P?


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[ronray267]

Definitely mo for me. Doesn't appeal to my eye. Friends love them.

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[wolf_fire]

Definitely mo for me. Doesn't appeal to my eye. Friends love them.

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So, would you like some mo', or is your answer no? :smile:

Normally I don't point out typos, but had to go for the play on words.

 

[wolf_fire]

Glock makes a fine pistol. I personally am not a fan, because when I point the gun at a target, it is aimed a little low, due to grip angle. Not good for close range emergency point shooting.
I do have a problem with some Glock owners, they are like Budweisre drinkers, and Harley davidson riders, " if you don't own a Harley, you ain't sh--.

Now I'm just confused. I own two Glocks, two Sigs, an S&W, many other marques in long barrel, and I ride a Honda. Help me!!

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[ventman]

I own a 1922, a Taurus 92, three Ruger revolvers, a Ruger LC9, the trigger of which made me try a Glock. I now carry a Glock 26 gen 4 with one of the addition backstraps attached, and A Pearce grip on the magazine. My hands are medium size for an adult male, and I am very happy with the gun. The Pearce piece on the mag makes a big difference.

 

[JLeòdhas]

Got three Glocks and the G30 is ccw, love it.

 

[cjkent]

I might look at one down the road..but for now I'll stick with my Px4.

 

[r1derbike]

Picked-up an XDm 9mm 4.5 in. barrel. Went to the range and shot my XD-S .45 much better.

I seem to have all the marks ticked for accuracy with the .45, and I have a learning curve to overcome with the much larger XDm, which recoils much less and has a longer sight radius and better trigger. Sheesh, I may tack-drive my hand cannon, but shoot the XDm like a rank amateur. Disappointing, actually. First range visit with it after cleaning. Better get some rests and see if it really shoots where it's pointed, and then work on my flawed technique with it.

Would rather use the 9mm for a range gun and the XD-S for CC, which serves nicely so far.

Oh, back on topic. The glocks felt awkward in my hand(s). Don't have one for that reason alone.

 

[wolf_fire]

Has anyone had a Glock and didn't like the feel of the wide grip but got used to it after a while?

I just went through all the posts and only one person made mention of the G36 (the slim line .45 ACP).

There is also another slim line out on the market called the G42 (.380). If the wide grip is what is bothering you, these two models might be better for you.

 

[SR9]

I think the reason Glock has been such a big seller is because the Fed. Government and Police Agencies bought so many on contract bid/purchases.
Now I understand they are going to other makes. Also different Calibers. I'm sure that 1st time buyers just purchase them because the police and military use them. Now if they change, people will have to have " the next best thing", and Glock sales will dwindle. I never "go with the crowd".
When I bought my SR9 years ago , I tried Glock, Taurus, Sigs, and Walthers. All nice guns, no doubt. But after firing the Ruger SR9, there was no doubt in my mind that was the gun for me. Great Balance, good hand feel, and Made in the good old USA. I have never been sorry and even though I may never need another gun, have, at this time, no intention of buying any thing else. Got my SR9 and my Pro-Carry Deep Comfort IWB holster, wear it all day everyday and love it.

 

[BUmmedic]

Started out with XD(m) compacts, but the 45ACP grip was a little too wide, and the 9mm grip fit me well and I shoot it well. Went to XDs, and although I shot them fine, I did not like the single stack grip on them. Picked up a G26 gen4 in trade a couple weeks ago, and although I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, it feels mighty comfortable in hand. Bought a G19 gen4 as a follow-up and can't wait to take this pair out. Just needs to warm up outside. I agree though, the grip angle makes me point a little high, but it doesn't take much to bring it back down. I think the two versus five finger punch theory may be right on. I've always been a two finger puncher, but may just have too much time in with my XD(m).

 

[AndeyHall]

Has anyone had a Glock and didn't like the feel of the wide grip but got used to it after a while?

Our department issues us 22's. I have never been a huge fan of Glocks as I always considered them the "Reebok" of firearms. I've always liked a good looking gun and yes, I know a firearm should be bought for reliability, but let's be honest, there are plenty of guns out there that are reliable AND look good (as the Coke Zero commercial would say). That being said, now that I've kinda been forced to put hundreds of rounds through one, I actually enjoy the gun, and have gotten to where if I'm not carrying it it's at least somewhere close by at all times. So yes, I guess you could say I've come around.