Good fact checking. Let me amend my faults to now it is both the 19 yo and the cops fault. If there is actual audio transmission that says, "hey we know this kid, back off" and the LEO's ignored that, they have a good deal of fault in this situation as well.
Even if he wasn't actively trying to run down a cop, several states have a fleeing felon law, allowing deadly force to prevent his escape. Also, if he's already rammed a cop he's shown brazen disregard for the safety of others and should be considered a danger to the public. Either of those things could have justified the shooting whether he was actively trying to hit a cop or not. They probably could have taken a different route, but legally I think the shooting was justified.
The driver of the truck was driving and acting aggressively. The officer's first duty is to defend himself. The officer acted reasonably in my opinion, if you look at things from his perspective, ignoring the back-story and only paying attention to what the officer experienced.
Action-Reaction. Who's responsibility was the initial action?
Even if he wasn't actively trying to run down a cop, several states have a fleeing felon law, allowing deadly force to prevent his escape. Also, if he's already rammed a cop he's shown brazen disregard for the safety of others and should be considered a danger to the public. Either of those things could have justified the shooting whether he was actively trying to hit a cop or not. They probably could have taken a different route, but legally I think the shooting was justified.
Well, finding out ain't that hard......No pun intended! Link Removed
I want to see pictures of the police car that got rammed. Bet there isn't much if any damage to it. Because the ramming could very well have been the cop hitting the truck and not the other way around. In traffic, the mind can make it look like you are sitting still when you aren't or even moving when you are not. Where is the dash cam video of the chase?
My opinion it sounds like the father knowingly mislead the police by saying the vehicle was stolen, when he knew his own son took it. Most likely his son would have came back home in a couple of hours. How long can you be upset over a pack of cigarettes and most likely he was going to the store to buy himself a pack of cigarettes and would probably came right back Or he was going to a buddy's house to get a cigarette. I know you guys do not want to hear this but in a round about way, ultimately the father's actions snowballed down hill and led to his son's death. He should have waited a reasonable amount of time and remained calm instead of trying to teach his son a lesson by sicing the cops on him. Also I believe the cops took extreme measures and should be sued.
The Link Removed in the post you're responding to goes straight to the page with the audio on it. It's a little less than 5 minutes long. No "if" about it, it's there right where I posted the time-stamp.
However, Dad is still exonerated since he did nothing to escalate this situation.
Dad is likely grew up in a time (and maybe a place) when trusting LE was often rewarded with results that reinforced that trust. To blame him even if that was not accurate would be more a grotesque case of blaming the victim than holding his kid wholly responsible for his own death would be. It never occurred to me to blame Dad in any way, shape, manner or form.
Blues
This was the perfect storm that just all came together tragically. I don't know if the dad, the son, or the police were the most to blame. They were all at fault in one way or another.
Dad’s Attempt to Teach Son a Lesson Ends in the Most Tragic Way Imaginable
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Working from the published information, I agree on the doubts about shooting being the appropriate solution and judgement on the part of the officer in carrying on the chase. The kid's (kind of old to be a kid) behavior certainly escalated an otherwise minor problem. I do, however, feel that dad was misusing the police. Sort of like calling 911 when your pizza arrives cold (yes it happens). Had he kept it the domestic dispute it was, nothing would have happened. Dad would have had reasonable expectation of getting his truck back; without adding to the arrest record of the kid. His son had not threatened any harm. The kid was an idiot, but dad's unwarranted, and I feel improper, escalation (I'll teach the little bastard a lesson) initiated the chain of events.
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