Here is the latest version of the map. I've tried to incorporate the suggestions I've received from various posters, although some of the comments were contradictory. I've tried to err on the side of caution and indicate the more restrictive color in those cases.
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d@3v yes I have a unrestricted. Part of the change came with the 2 Democrats elected in 06. The sheriff and the judge need to go. Way too many democrats were elected in 06 in this area. Of course 08 not good either. Hopefully 10 and 12 will correct the problems.
Work with Sgt Lejia he will guide you. I have much respect for him he struck me as a very straight shooter.
Good Luck
You said to leave something blank so the Sgt. could help me fill it out. What was it? Was it the field titled "A License is required for the following reason"? The reason's I am thinking about putting down are:
Possible Future Employment
Target Practice
Hunting
Personal Safety
For ALL lawful purposes
Home Defense
I was thinking maybe also putting "educational". You know, like teaching younger people about firearms, as that is what I strive to do. Too many youngsters are being taught that firearms are bad. :angry:
It's funny, but in Genesee County, I was told "For all lawful purposes" wasn't a valid reason. We went round and round on that, and it was finally left for the interview process to flesh out why I actually wanted a permit (and I maintain for anything that is legal, so we'll see how that goes). Things were going at light speed in the beginning, the references had their paperwork in less than a week after turning in the application. I followed up and all the paperwork was returned by mid June, and so far....just waiting. Taking the pre-licensing course this weekend at Gander Mt.
Well, it's up to you. You're in a different county facing a different set of people. I just threw this out there for the record. You may want to leave it blank until you are going to turn it in and see what the clerk says.
I'm not sure if my clerk was trying to "help me out" without letting her co-workers know she was....or if she had hardwood where her head should be. I'm hoping it was the former, but experience tells me it was the latter. She said the interview with the Sheriff would get the proper wording in there. Trust me, we spent a minimum of 15 minutes total going back and forth 3 different times on what I wanted it for. My reasoning was, if I restricted myself to hunting/TP, then that's all I would get. I THINK she figured that I wanted to do whatever I wanted to, where I wanted to and for any half-assed reason (i.e. CC in a courthouse, school, NYC, etc). My response was....since those are not legal...then it would not satisfy my reason (all lawful purposes)....right? But, 'round and 'round we went.
Now, one other bit of info. From what others have said with this particular judge in GC, he ONLY issues hunting/target UNLESS you provide a VERY good reason (which I did in a separate affidavit). Others have advised putting Hunting/Target...getting the license....then applying after a year or so to have the restrictions removed. Sort of like a training wheels session. If we can trust you not to screw up, then we'll take the training wheels off.
Of course, I got this info after I submitted the paperwork.
Good Luck.
Welcome to the wonderful world of NY Pistol Permit lunacy.
Let me rephrase those questions for you:
Why are YOU so special that YOU should be allowed to defend yourself?
Smart ass answers:
"Uh....I don't know....maybe because YOU (Officer Friendly) can't be next to me all the time?"
"Because I planned on committing a crime with a pistol and I thought registering with you was the first step"
Seriously, I put down that there are times when I could, because of my new small business, become the target of opportunity since I would be carrying large sums of cash and or equipment. I also stated that I understood I could not, and that I would not, use deadly force to protect property. I would use it only if I felt there was no chance to retreat and that my life was in danger.
All of that is true, but it should go without saying. The people submitting to background checks and fingerprints, ballistic records for the new pistol, etc....we're NOT THE ONE'S YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT! Honestly, I have no idea how some of these lawmakers think.
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