I always carry "cocked and locked." Usually I use an IWB summer special style or a SideGuard IWB pancake holster. Occasionally I wear a SideGuard OWB beltslide holster.Hi, I'm new to this site,and I have found it to be a wealth of information. I have a couple of questions for 1911 CC carriers. First off, how do you carry your 1911, "cocked and Locked" (hammer back,safety on) or "stand by" (round chambered, and hammer at half cock)I have been given advice by other people. (mostly non-1911 CC carriers) And I'd like to hear from this group. Second, What holster do you use. I have a Citadel 1911 CSP, with a BlackHawk Serpa Holster that I plan to carry "strongside". Thanks in advance for the advice.
Bob
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In what condition was the pistol that went into production in 1911 designed to be carried?
Since your Citadel is not a series 80 firing system, it will fire with the magazine removed. If it should be taken away from you, the assailant has 1 shot.
IIRC the original JMB patent had a magazine disconnect but it didn't make it into the production gun. The Army MOA doesn't address it either AFAIK.
You are correct that a Series 80 will fire without the mag installed. Dad's Special Combat Gov't Model is an 80 and will fire without the mag in. You are wrong about that being all that makes an 80 into a Series 70. The hammer half-cocked notch was changed as was the part of the end that engaged it. That part went from hooked ( which would break off ) to a flat section. A Series 80 can trip the hammer at half-cocked while a Series 70 won't. Series 70 that I have also is one due to the Collet Bushing. 1983 to 1988 80s also had them but all of the 70s had them when new.Are you saying the series 80's will not fire with out the magazine? If so that is incorrect, the series 80 does not have a magazine disconnect. They will absolutly go bang sans magazine.
One other point, the "series 80" is not a firing system per se, it is a firing pin block, to prevent the pistol from firing if dropped or sear failure. It is basically two levers that push the firing pin block past a detent when the trigger is pressed. In fact you can remove the 2 levers and spring loaded plunger and the weapon will work just fine, you have what is a series 70.
Has nothing to do with the firing system, it is a safety.
Steve
You are correct that a Series 80 will fire without the mag installed. Dad's Special Combat Gov't Model is an 80 and will fire without the mag in. You are wrong about that being all that makes an 80 into a Series 70. The hammer half-cocked notch was changed as was the part of the end that engaged it. That part went from hooked ( which would break off ) to a flat section. A Series 80 can trip the hammer at half-cocked while a Series 70 won't. Series 70 that I have also is one due to the Collet Bushing. 1983 to 1988 80s also had them but all of the 70s had them when new.