Buffalo police going after gun owner widows….

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The vast majority of American citizens are not willing to fight and die for anything let alone their freedoms. One way or another our government will, in time, confiscate all guns from the American citizens. I say that nothing is going to stop them, and UNTIL I hear on the news that citizens are actually shooting those attempting to confiscate their guns I'll stand by what I say. Now all of the Rambo rhetoric & BS can begin, but like I said, UNTIL I hear of citizens actually shooting in defense of those attempting to confiscate their guns it's ALL BS.



MARANATHA!.:victory:

First, let me say I am aware that your are playing Devil's advocate here so I'm not debating against you per se.

Based on my understand of Scripture, I don’t think we’re gong to see another revolution in this country or if we do it will be in the opposite direction of what most of the people here are thinking.

In fact I will go so far as to say that within 10 years America won’t even be a sovereign nation.

I know I harp on this a lot but according to the Bible most of the World is going to willingly follow the Beast and by extension the World system.
I think were going to see a lot of civil unrest, similar to what we’re seeing in Ferguson Mo. or the occupy movement but we’re not going to see and grand patriot uprising
 
First, let me say I am aware that your are playing Devil's advocate here so I'm not debating against you per se.

Based on my understand of Scripture, I don’t think we’re gong to see another revolution in this country or if we do it will be in the opposite direction of what most of the people here are thinking.

In fact I will go so far as to say that within 10 years America won’t even be a sovereign nation.

I know I harp on this a lot but according to the Bible most of the World is going to willingly follow the Beast and by extension the World system.

Based on my understanding of Scripture and my 45 years of being a student of Prophecy, I firmly believe that the Rapture will happen before the end of 2015, and then after a 2 year gap the 7 years of the Tribulation will begin in 2017. This is not date setting (day or hour), it has everything to do with knowledge of God's prophetic timepiece (seasons)..(Luke 12:56) "Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don't know how to interpret this present (season) time"? And speaking of "most of the World is going to willingly follow the Beast and by extension the World system", you may find this interesting..Generation WiFi wants brains hooked to Internet.

MARANATHA! :victory:
 
the 7 years of the Tribulation will begin in 2017

Oh, just dang it! I'm currently scheduled to retire in 2017. Darn prophecies and 45 year students of prophecy. Now I need to bookmark this thread to resurrect it on 1 Jan 2016 when all the Christians are wailing and gnashing their teeth because they were left behind when the rapture occurred sometime in 2015 and they missed it.
 
Based on my understanding of Scripture and my 45 years of being a student of Prophecy, I firmly believe that the Rapture will happen before the end of 2015, and then after a 2 year gap the 7 years of the Tribulation will begin in 2017. This is not date setting (day or hour), it has everything to do with knowledge of God's prophetic timepiece (seasons)..(Luke 12:56) "Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don't know how to interpret this present (season) time"? And speaking of "most of the World is going to willingly follow the Beast and by extension the World system", you may find this interesting..Generation WiFi wants brains hooked to Internet.


MARANATHA! :victory:

The Rapture occurring before the end of 2015 wouldn’t surprise me. In fact the Rapture occurring at any point from now forward wouldn’t surprise me but that’s irrelevant to my point.

In 2nd Thessalonians 2:11The Bible talks about God sending a Spirit of Delusion on those that reject Christ so that they would believe the lies of the antichrist. Based on the things I see in the World I believe that Spirit is already moving and that that spirit will cause the majority of Americans even some of those considered the most patriotic and conservative to throw it all aside and follow the beast and the New World Order, which is why I have no hope for some great rebirth of the “American Spirit”.
 
New York requires that you register any handgun, with a very few possible exceptions. I'm not a resident, so I can't quote the law, but I do know that you have to register handguns if you possess them in the state.


What gun? :meeting:
 
First, in New York, We the People have decided that you have to have a concealed carry permit to carry a handgun concealed and your handgun has to be associated with your concealed carry permit. The courts have found the permit and registration system to be constitutional, so it is a political issue. they way political issues get resolved is through elections, just as our founders devised. A real American would never dis the resolution of political issues through the election process. Only a traitor would do that.

Second, after a person dies he or she no longer has a political or constitutional right to own a firearm for self protection. Thus, the eligible voters of any state can vote to prohibit dead people from owning any firearm. Again, exactly as our founders devised. Only a traitor would dis our system.

Third, the fiduciary of a dead person is required to administer the estate, part of which would be the disposition of estate assets, including firearms. The legal disposition of a firearm in New York requires that it be associated with a concealed carry permit. If the firearm was not co-registered (the easiest way to pass on a weapon in NY) then the fiduciary is required to deliver the weapon to the local law enforcement agency for safe keeping until a legal disposition has been arranged.

Fourth, the "buffalo police are confiscating guns" is a chicken little media hyped story. all they are doing is enforcing a law We the People of New York have enacted just as our founders envisioned, and which the courts have found to be constitutional, just as our founders envisioned. The traitors might be upset by that, but real Americans are not. There may be real Americans who disagree with the political decision of the majority, but they respect the political process our founders envision.
 
First, in New York, We the People have decided that you have to have a concealed carry permit to carry a handgun concealed and your handgun has to be associated with your concealed carry permit. The courts have found the permit and registration system to be constitutional, so it is a political issue. they way political issues get resolved is through elections, just as our founders devised. A real American would never dis the resolution of political issues through the election process. Only a traitor would do that.

Second, after a person dies he or she no longer has a political or constitutional right to own a firearm for self protection. Thus, the eligible voters of any state can vote to prohibit dead people from owning any firearm. Again, exactly as our founders devised. Only a traitor would dis our system.

Third, the fiduciary of a dead person is required to administer the estate, part of which would be the disposition of estate assets, including firearms. The legal disposition of a firearm in New York requires that it be associated with a concealed carry permit. If the firearm was not co-registered (the easiest way to pass on a weapon in NY) then the fiduciary is required to deliver the weapon to the local law enforcement agency for safe keeping until a legal disposition has been arranged.

Fourth, the "buffalo police are confiscating guns" is a chicken little media hyped story. all they are doing is enforcing a law We the People of New York have enacted just as our founders envisioned, and which the courts have found to be constitutional, just as our founders envisioned. The traitors might be upset by that, but real Americans are not. There may be real Americans who disagree with the political decision of the majority, but they respect the political process our founders envision.
This has been the standard for a pretty long time. Thus we cross-register our guns with friends and family so they aren't revoked after death. They simply go to the other registrant. Similar to leaving it in your will. Your friend or family member can just come and pick it up from the decedent's home.
 
First, in New York, We the People have decided that you have to have a concealed carry permit to carry a handgun concealed and your handgun has to be associated with your concealed carry permit. The courts have found the permit and registration system to be constitutional, so it is a political issue. they way political issues get resolved is through elections, just as our founders devised. A real American would never dis the resolution of political issues through the election process. Only a traitor would do that.

Second, after a person dies he or she no longer has a political or constitutional right to own a firearm for self protection. Thus, the eligible voters of any state can vote to prohibit dead people from owning any firearm. Again, exactly as our founders devised. Only a traitor would dis our system.

Third, the fiduciary of a dead person is required to administer the estate, part of which would be the disposition of estate assets, including firearms. The legal disposition of a firearm in New York requires that it be associated with a concealed carry permit. If the firearm was not co-registered (the easiest way to pass on a weapon in NY) then the fiduciary is required to deliver the weapon to the local law enforcement agency for safe keeping until a legal disposition has been arranged.

Fourth, the "buffalo police are confiscating guns" is a chicken little media hyped story. all they are doing is enforcing a law We the People of New York have enacted just as our founders envisioned, and which the courts have found to be constitutional, just as our founders envisioned. The traitors might be upset by that, but real Americans are not. There may be real Americans who disagree with the political decision of the majority, but they respect the political process our founders envision.

Only a scum-sucking, yellow-bellied, apparatchik Trotskyite, despotic traitor would read the words that We, The People of the United States codified into law, "shall not be infringed," and support the notion that elected hacks in NY State (or anywhere/everywhere else in America) can override that law by interpreting those words to mean any damned thing they deem them to mean.

And the list of relevant adjectives for the traitors who sit on the courts who have made those kinds of rulings is much longer, much more profane, and represent a much more significant betrayal of the Founders' republic, the consequences for which should be the ultimate of what any traitor throughout our history has suffered. It is only but one among many examples of the republic's death that such scum walks among us, even rules over us. nogods is one of their most vocal and vociferous supporters. He should be roundly condemned by every freedom-loving Patriot to the Founders' Constitution on this (or any other) board.

Blues
 
Here's another Nazi Germany tactic that's about to be law in lower NYS... if you are caught with a single joint in your car, if you commit any misdemeanor in your car... of any kind... the DA is taking the car in civil forfeiture. For a f----ng misdemeanor.
 
Passing a law in the name of "the People of [fill in your state's name] enact," doesn't automatically confer either the SUPPORT or APPROVAL of the People. Many gun control laws fall into this category.
 

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