Blaming the gun, within 24 hours, as usual


Unless the shooter had a South Carolina carry permit, it was already illegal for him to possess the loaded gun at the church because it is within 1000' of Buist Academy School. You know, that Federal Gun Free School Zone Act that they claimed would keep things like this from happening.
 
Must be some kind of conspiracy, you can't have a gun in church !!!

You can in South Carolina, if you have specific permission...

SECTION 23-31-215. Issuance of permits.
(M) A permit issued pursuant to this section does not authorize a permit holder to carry a concealable weapon into a:
(8) church or other established religious sanctuary unless express permission is given by the appropriate church official or governing body;
 
And immediately after he said this was "now the time to morn" he went off on his anti-gun agenda. The jerk doesn't even listen to his own words. Guess he morns quick.
 
Obama uses church shooting to press gun control

Not even 24 hours since the shooting, let's call for more gun control.....of course it will be the NRA's fault.




"Never let a good crisis go to waste" Remember that quote?

Plus he MUST have listened to Conservative talk radio, was a member of the Tea Party, had dreams of being a cop and was influenced by all the "Pro-Gun" blogs!!!! :rolleyes:

We should know that the anti-gun leftists are looking for these type of connections. Then when they do not find them then they will make it up!
 
The pastor, who is also a state senator voted against a bill that would allow CC in churches. Guess he preferred being defenseless.
 
You can in South Carolina, if you have specific permission...

SECTION 23-31-215. Issuance of permits.
(M) A permit issued pursuant to this section does not authorize a permit holder to carry a concealable weapon into a:
(8) church or other established religious sanctuary unless express permission is given by the appropriate church official or governing body;

If South Carolina wasn't so anti-gun then perhaps someone in that church would have been armed. Thankfully in New York we don't have archaic anti-2A laws like south Carolina's laws.
 
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SC treats it licensed concealed carry holders like children with a long list of prohibited places. SC prohibits carry in churches, public buildings, medical offices, and "establishment licensed for on-premises consumption of alcohol". New York has no such nonsense.

I could have go to a doctor's appointment, have dinner in a bar, go to my town board meeting, then to a church service while carrying concealed. Do that in SC and you have committed a felony and three misdemeanors.


 
While no doubt this is a horrible crime it's funny how Obummer forgets about hundreds of illegal immigrants that have committed rape and murder being released under his administration.
 
Yes ladies and gentlemen, the Twitter Verse and the FaceBook postings from the antis is off the charts!
Of course they restrict or just plain don't allow pro gun comments through (FaceBook that is).
Twitters about the same.
 
SC treats it licensed concealed carry holders like children with a long list of prohibited places. SC prohibits carry in churches, public buildings, medical offices, and "establishment licensed for on-premises consumption of alcohol". New York has no such nonsense.

I could have go to a doctor's appointment, have dinner in a bar, go to my town board meeting, then to a church service while carrying concealed. Do that in SC and you have committed a felony and three misdemeanors.



New York treats everyone that has not passed the New York government inspection as children as far as firearms go...unloaded and locked up only and then only if you are traveling through New York hoping that FOPA will protect you. That's why New York gets an outstanding grade of A- with the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence - rated #5 in the US for the best (that means most restrictive) gun control laws in the country. The 4 states that beat New York - CA, CT, NJ, and MD. But hey, NY was ahead of MA (#6). So sure, if you get the state's permission to carry in New York you can carry in a lot of places - too bad no other law abiding citizens among the other 49 states are able to legally exercise their 2nd Amendment rights in New York - and only the small percentage of New York state residents blessed by the government. Oh and what is your New York state permit worth in NYC? About all it is good for is wiping your butt if you run out of TP in NYC.

Should New York tourists have their lives destroyed because of concealed carry laws? | Fox News

It's like being in prison and bragging about how good the food is.....
 
SC treats it licensed concealed carry holders like children with a long list of prohibited places. SC prohibits carry in churches, public buildings, medical offices, and "establishment licensed for on-premises consumption of alcohol". New York has no such nonsense.

I could have go to a doctor's appointment, have dinner in a bar, go to my town board meeting, then to a church service while carrying concealed. Do that in SC and you have committed a felony and three misdemeanors.



But you have to get a permit to even keep a gun in your home.
 
New York treats everyone that has not passed the New York government inspection as children as far as firearms go...unloaded and locked up only and then only if you are traveling through New York hoping that FOPA will protect you. That's why New York gets an outstanding grade of A- with the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence - rated #5 in the US for the best (that means most restrictive) gun control laws in the country. The 4 states that beat New York - CA, CT, NJ, and MD. But hey, NY was ahead of MA (#6). So sure, if you get the state's permission to carry in New York you can carry in a lot of places - too bad no other law abiding citizens among the other 49 states are able to legally exercise their 2nd Amendment rights in New York - and only the small percentage of New York state residents blessed by the government. Oh and what is your New York state permit worth in NYC? About all it is good for is wiping your butt if you run out of TP in NYC.

Should New York tourists have their lives destroyed because of concealed carry laws? | Fox News

It's like being in prison and bragging about how good the food is.....

The reason NY state doesn't recognize cc permits from other states is because other states allow irresponsible immature people to obtain cc permits. That's why other states have to micro-manager their cc permit holders.

What good is a firearm that you have to leave locked in the car while having a meal, visiting a medical office or hospital, going to church, attending a public meeting. True irony, if Charleston held a public hearing to discuss self defense no at the meeting could carry a firearm for self-defense.

In NY we license people to carry to defend themselves while going about their business. In SC it appears they license people to carry in their cars.

And lets consider this - if the courts held that each state had to recognize each other state's cc permits, would SC be required to allow me to carry in bars, churches, medical offices, and government offices? If not, then they wouldn't be recognizing the NYS cc permit. Instead, they would be treating NYS permit holders like a child who can't be trusted to carry a firearm because they issue cc permits to idiots in SC.

and what about SC permit holders in NYS - would they be prohinited from carrying in bars, churches, government offices and medical offices because their issuing states thinks they are too irresponsible to be allowed to carry a firearm for self defense?
 
The reason NY state doesn't recognize cc permits from other states is because other states allow irresponsible immature people to obtain cc permits. That's why other states have to micro-manager their cc permit holders.

What good is a firearm that you have to leave locked in the car while having a meal, visiting a medical office or hospital, going to church, attending a public meeting. True irony, if Charleston held a public hearing to discuss self defense no at the meeting could carry a firearm for self-defense.

In NY we license people to carry to defend themselves while going about their business. In SC it appears they license people to carry in their cars.

And lets consider this - if the courts held that each state had to recognize each other state's cc permits, would SC be required to allow me to carry in bars, churches, medical offices, and government offices? If not, then they wouldn't be recognizing the NYS cc permit. Instead, they would be treating NYS permit holders like a child who can't be trusted to carry a firearm because they issue cc permits to idiots in SC.

and what about SC permit holders in NYS - would they be prohinited from carrying in bars, churches, government offices and medical offices because their issuing states thinks they are too irresponsible to be allowed to carry a firearm for self defense?
For those that didnt bother reading the quoted blather/bulldung above, I will paraphrase it for you: Nogods is very PROUD of all the infringements he has to go through... and defends them... he even thinks not having infringements quite as bad in other states is a danger to him.....
 
This was truly a horrible act. I'll pray for all those that have been affected. I pack in church, always have. Meaning no disrespect to anyone but how many people are killed in any one day in the city of Chicago? Maybe MaoBama and his minion Rahm can answer that.
 

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