You are completely right, it is wrong, but those that just want to take the "easy path" don't mind letting it go unhindered. Shoot they go so far as to ridicule those who actually want to make it right again. It would be really nice when it's normal that police obey the Constitution and the laws, instead of it being normal that they can ID anyone for any reason and search anywhere for anything....
Papers, I want to see your papers, or you will go to the ovens.
The driver license is an infrigment of a right . Know your rights.
So a license is not required to exercise a right.
Let's see this Dallas city ordinance.
That's why I am glad I never moved to Texas. I know some people wouldn't mind living in Texas...I don't think I would enjoy it one bit. No open carry, and if you can provide the citation, you have to provide ID...ya not my thing. WA has it's own problems, but at least I can openly carry my firearm without being detained and questioned and assumed a felon immediately. I don't know why you were ID'ing them in the first place, and since OC is illegal in Texas it couldn't be for that, I do not see how it is relevant to the topic at hand. Did you force someone to ID themselves because they were using a cell phone in a park? And if they refused did you arrest them? Are those the kind of people you were arresting?
So then you're saying that you're required to HAVE ID?
No such requirement exists in Ohio, apart from driving or carrying a concealed firearm.
Who PAYS for that ID? What if you can't afford one?
I hope you know that "driving a motor vehicle" is not a RIGHT it's a PRIVILEGE.
That's why I am glad I never moved to Texas. I know some people wouldn't mind living in Texas...I don't think I would enjoy it one bit. No open carry, and if you can provide the citation, you have to provide ID...ya not my thing. WA has it's own problems, but at least I can openly carry my firearm without being detained and questioned and assumed a felon immediately. I don't know why you were ID'ing them in the first place, and since OC is illegal in Texas it couldn't be for that, I do not see how it is relevant to the topic at hand. Did you force someone to ID themselves because they were using a cell phone in a park? And if they refused did you arrest them? Are those the kind of people you were arresting?
There was no kind of carry in the 1970's, open or concealed. If you had a gun you went to jail. The only exceptions were if you were taking it to a gunsmith to be repaired or were carrying large sums of money on an irregular basis. Amazing how many gunsmiths were open at midnight.
The point of the ID is that in the video, he refused to provide the officer with his ID, and that would have been illegal in Dallas in the 1970's.
The people I arrested were usually wanted on warrants for most any type of crime, including misdemeanors to capital crimes.
It is obvious that you drank the Kool Aid that has been dished out by our State public Servants for years. I didn't know what my rights were untill I did reshearch. It is a right to travel in a motor vehicle for private purposes on the public highways. We all have been indoctrinated by our educators to believe that the elected know what is best for you. When you remind the elected that they work for you, they look stunned then realize they must deal with someone who know thier rights. This includes Judges. You also realize that the elected servants have no duty to tell you the truth or protect your rights The only one who wil protect your rights is you. So wake up! Stop believing the spin you hear! It is obvious to me that the majority are not willing to fight for thier rights. Most do not even know thier rights.
How many know that the Uniform Commercial Code was Adopted by all 50 state in 1964 and that for it to be applied that UCC 1-207 now UCC 1-308 had to be in it to protect your common law rights. ????????????
First, I'd like to say that I TOTALLY understand and agree with the fact that we all have rights and don't want to lose them. However, I keep seeing many posts about how an officer confronts someone open carrying and the person refuses to cooperate. I saw another post about a hotel asking someone to show their CCW permit. Again, I TOTALLY understand that you don't have to and they have no legal grounds, but why wouldn't you cooperate and just get it over with? I'm really curious as to why it's such a big deal to so many of you not to cooperate. It's not like they're going to take your rights away from you and you're not incriminating yourself in any way by cooperating. The situation would be much easier if you just answer the questions and move on. Now, if they won't stop hassling you after you've cooperated, then I could see the point of refusing to cooperate further. So, is there something I'm missing?
Your right. You did. Try reading the Bill of Rights, and you'll find it.Ah... Yeah! I must have missed reading that "Right" in the Constitution. Thanks for clearing that up....��
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Until I went to college and joined the Army, I always LIVED in a "very bad part of town". I've never had a warrant out against me.That was the law in Dallas in the 1970's. ID's were available for no charge from the state. It did not have to be a drivers license, just a state photo ID.
You see, it seems an unfair burden to have to show who you are to us because none of us, at least I hope so, have warrants out for our arrest. Most of the folks I dealt with were not so fortunate. They were pimps, ladies of the evening, burglars, robbers and just all around thugs and thieves. I worked in a very bad part of town.
So you voluntarily allow the U.S. Government to tell you what to do, where to go, when to go there, what to wear, how to wear it, and how to cut your hair. You also allow them to prohibit you from carrying a firearm into your workplace. However, you get all up in arms when someone wants to show a firearms permit to quickly and easily end confrontation with an LEO. IBTL.
No. What I have a problem with is someone who is rolling over belly up at the sight of a law enforcement officer telling the rest of us that is the right thing to do. I stay in the military having full knowledge of the rights I am giving up to do so. To remain in the military, I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies both foreign AND DOMESTIC. I cannot stand idly and silently by and allow people to post such drivel that it is in the best interest of "public safety" to present your "papers, please" to a law enforcement officer for no other reason than they are asking for it because they have heartburn over the perfectly legal behavior the detained subject happens to be engaged in at the time of the illegal detainment - and to use the excuse that they simply want to get on with their day and avoid "drama" which is created by the LEO is a personal choice that I refuse to recommend as a preferred course of action.
While I certainly agree with the majority of your post, I personally choose to concealed carry because I don't need nor do I want to deal with the legal hassle of explaining myself to a bunch of keystone cops.
As far as being ''afraid to stand up'' etc...One should choose their battles wisely imho.
Ah... Yeah! I must have missed reading that "Right" in the Constitution. Thanks for clearing that up....��
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