A Warning! It's Over for America!
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Ringo
A WATCHMAN
vernsimpson
New member
Ringo & BC, Greg would complain that ice cubes are to cold! I see him at home and not allowed to talk except to say, "Yes Dear! Yes Dear!" So this is the only place he can vent!! :yes4:
So, "yes."
You seem to have me confused with someone else. You're thinking of the guys who got all whiney after it was pointed out that the premise of this thread is BS, perhaps.
I've simply been trying to have a mature and respectful discussion about the topic. I guess that's too much to ask for around here.
billt
Banned
Why is it, "Over For America"? It's really very simple. We have kids graduating high school who don't know who bombed Pearl Harbor, or who won the Civil War. They can't identify pictures of world leaders who are on the front page of every English speaking newspaper in the entire world. Yet they know who won Dancing With The Stars, and who Brad Pitt is married to, but not who is Vice President. They think open borders and legalized dope are more important than a balanced budget. They have been brought up feeling the government owes them something, and they owe their country nothing. They have all been educated by communist teachers to think socialism is great, (even though it's failed or failing every where it's been implemented), and capitalism is evil, as is anyone who has more wealth than they do. They want a "level playing field" involving everything in life. And complain and blame everyone but themselves when they don't have it.
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We are descending into third world status at a rapid rate. In another generation we'll be there. We will be a country filled with uneducated, stupid minorities, who have nothing but a sense of entitlement. Our economy is drowning in a sea of debt. Most families save nothing, but buy every toy and trinket they see. Credit card debt is through the roof, with the AVERAGE family owing well into 5 digits on multiple cards, at double digit interest rates that most will never pay off........ Unless they borrow money from somewhere else to do it. People cannot afford much of anything of value unless they borrow money to buy it. Most today could not even qualify for a home mortgage, yet feel they are entitled to one. We are a nation of cash poor bums who live paycheck to paycheck. Most are less than 3 weeks from becoming homeless if their income ceases for any reason.
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It is impossible to reverse this at this point. We are much like a cocaine addict that is close to rock bottom, but still has a ways to go. Only when this nation destroys itself economically, as well as socially, will we be able to start any type of rebuilding process. And for most it will be far too long and painful of a process for most to survive, without becoming criminally violent. My only thanks is I never had children, or will live long enough to see this country self destruct into the cesspool that lies ahead. Where we are at presently is bad enough.
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We are descending into third world status at a rapid rate. In another generation we'll be there. We will be a country filled with uneducated, stupid minorities, who have nothing but a sense of entitlement. Our economy is drowning in a sea of debt. Most families save nothing, but buy every toy and trinket they see. Credit card debt is through the roof, with the AVERAGE family owing well into 5 digits on multiple cards, at double digit interest rates that most will never pay off........ Unless they borrow money from somewhere else to do it. People cannot afford much of anything of value unless they borrow money to buy it. Most today could not even qualify for a home mortgage, yet feel they are entitled to one. We are a nation of cash poor bums who live paycheck to paycheck. Most are less than 3 weeks from becoming homeless if their income ceases for any reason.
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It is impossible to reverse this at this point. We are much like a cocaine addict that is close to rock bottom, but still has a ways to go. Only when this nation destroys itself economically, as well as socially, will we be able to start any type of rebuilding process. And for most it will be far too long and painful of a process for most to survive, without becoming criminally violent. My only thanks is I never had children, or will live long enough to see this country self destruct into the cesspool that lies ahead. Where we are at presently is bad enough.
Ringo
A WATCHMAN
This is the most dangerous moment in the 67-year history of the U.S.-Israel relationship. Iran is about to become a nuclear power player with the blessing of America and a few other blind-as-bats nations. That means many nations in the region will have to pursue this goal as well. If you ever wondered what end-time references to fire, vapors of smoke, and the resulting strange signs in the heavens mean, I think it is obvious. At the time of the very end, nuclear war will be raging, for sure in the Mideast. Things are coming together. They're falling in place. Even if it seems they're falling apart, they really are not. Nations must have "distress with perplexity." (Luke 21:25.) Can you think of a single nation that is not plagued with some kind of perplexity or plague? A dilemma for which the leaders have no solutions.
As prophesied in the Bible, something earth shaking is about to take place that is ultimately going to shake other nations into conflict as a result. Iran may orchestrate an overt military attack in order to trigger all-out Hezbollah rocket and suicide terror attacks on Israel, closing the Straits of Hormuz, in order to prevent oil from getting out of the gulf. It's being reported that Saudi Arabia has cleared airspace to enable Israel to succeed in destroying Iran's nuclear sites. Our prayers can't prevent these events from coming to pass. Remember, God has declared the end from the beginning:Isaiah 46:9-10-"Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand".
Things are not slowing down. Every day something is happening. As we're moving into the month of April in 2015, we're clearly witnessing an acceleration in prophetic fulfillment. Though the Bible has been attacked, the one place where God rests His inspiration is that the things He foretells come infallibly to pass: 100% accuracy!!! Neither kings, generals, mullahs, ayatollahs, presidents, Fuhrers, or pharaohs can obliterate Israel. The evil they perpetrate on God's covenant land will boomerang back on them and their empires. Mess with Israel and there are consequences.The more President Obama's actions affect or jeopardize Israel's security, the stronger the response will be from the God of Israel as evidenced in Scripture. We've been warned. Scripture is clear. This will have enormous implications for the United States.
~ Things Are Going To Get Very Ugly, Very Soon ~
MARANATHA! :victory:
Oldgrunt
Well-known member
I know that this will not be a very important topic to many but we have just had a significant occurrence in Turkey which lends a little more credence to Biblical prophecy. Turkey has just installed a new president, Racep Tyyin Ergodan. This man has supposedly appeared from nowhere and, without any previous political experience, has risen to the Presidency of Turkey. Does that have a familiar ring to it? Seems like something similar happened here a little over six years ago but our man had a couple of years political experience before assuming the throne. Now, the most significant thing about his rise is that the Muslims have now declared him to be god. One day later, Turkey lost 85% of its electrical power. Doesn't seem like our God likes to be trifled with. Oddly enough, immediately after Netanyahu's address to Congress, a delegation from Kentucky spoke in very derisive tones about Netanyahu and Israel, lambasting about a subject they didn't seem to be very knowledgeable about. Two days later, Kentucky was hit with the worst weather they had had in years. Coincidence? Or is God giving us signs that He is getting fed up with us all? I know that a lot of people will not believe we are due for a terrible shaking but, regardless of their thoughts, God has his own thoughts and I don't think He is very pleased. Even so, come Lord Jesus.
mojoman
New member
Turkey did not "just install" a new president who "came out of nowhere." He's been in office for the better part of a year. Before being elected president he held other offices like Mayor of Istanbul. He was also the Turkish PM for over a decade. Only someone who has very little knowledge of the world around th would try to claim that he came from nowhere.
Also, "the Muslims" aren't claiming him to be a god any more than the Christians claimed David Koresh to be a god.
On top of that, those nutjobs that are claiming him to be god or god-like have been doing so for years. This power outage is hardly retribution "one day later" for some declaration that the dude is a god. Unless, that is, the real god was late checking his email or something.
Oldgrunt
Well-known member
Greg: The article I found on him said exactly what I did. I didn't look for his biography. I find it important to note that the Muslims are declaring him to be god (and I never herd of anyone claiming Koresh to be god) because they are waiting for their god or Mahdi (?) as they call him. As far as retribution goes, can you say it wasn't? Nah, didn't think so.
NotTwoShure
Well-known member
Judgment us upon us.
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Maybe staying anything you read in articles you find online to be reality, despite the fact that those articles are factually incorrect, is a problem.
Anyway, I CAN say that that power outage wasn't retribution. The fact remains, though, that what we claim doesn't really matter unless there are facts to back it up. There are no facts to back up the claim that it was retribution, the untrue BS that you posted earlier doesn't change that.
vernsimpson
New member
I can just see and hear Greg sitting in the middle of Hades saying, "But! But! I didn't know! Nobody told me! Bush lied to me!! This isn't FAIR!"
Oldgrunt
Well-known member
OK, the ball is in your court. Prove it wasn't.
You prove that it was. I never claimed that it wasn't retribution.
Anyway, claims without facts to support them (or, in your case, claims that are simply untrue) are nearly useless.
Oldgrunt
Well-known member
You are claiming them to be untrue. The challenge was for you to disprove them. Now you are tap dancing. Sorry Greg, you aren't worth the time anymore.
You claimed that the Turkish people just installed a president that came out of nowhere. Their current president has been in office for the better part of a year and has well over a decade of experience in national level politics. Reality disproves your claims, sorry.
Now, the REAL challenge is for you to prove your claims to be true. That is how real debate works. You make a claim and present evidence to support it.
mspt_99
New member
Well, its a forum not a debate club. He can post whatever, within forum guidelines, and certainly doesn't have to prove a thing. Much debating does occur but isn't required. You certainly aren't one who should be exhorting others on proper debating given your history here.
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