Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality

[Oldgrunt]

It's true that one doesn't choose their sexual orientation either way, but heterosexuality is biologicaly congruent while homosexuality is a birth defect, so that's a diference. I don't believe in discriminating against people with incurable birth defects.

For many years, homosexuality was considered to be a mental disease by the leading authorities in the psychiatric field. Only within the last fifty years or so has it been defended as a condition with which one is born. However, many scientists have said there is nothing in the brain that causes the problem which leads it to be one's personal choice. Too many conflicting opinions and in the secular world it isn't a problem. The problem is with it conflicting with religion, an argument to which there will be no end. Many, many problems yet to be encountered and none will be acceptable to either side.

 

[Blueshell]

For many years, homosexuality was considered to be a mental disease by the leading authorities in the psychiatric field. Only within the last fifty years or so has it been defended as a condition with which one is born. However, many scientists have said there is nothing in the brain that causes the problem which leads it to be one's personal choice. Too many conflicting opinions and in the secular world it isn't a problem. The problem is with it conflicting with religion, an argument to which there will be no end. Many, many problems yet to be encountered and none will be acceptable to either side.

The APA bases it's diagnostic criteria on one's ability to function. Gays are clearly functional, that's why homosexuality is not classified as a disorder any more.

Homosexuality remains a birth defect, however. A simple way to explain it is hormone irregularities during pregnancy cause the part of the brain which interprets pheromones to form as the opposite sex instead of the ZEF's actual sex. Sexuality is more complicated than that of course, but that's the basic jist of it. The result is a person who expresses the reproductive instinct with the sex they can't reproduce with.

The whole thing is benign, IMO. We don't ban people from marrying just because they're infertile, for example, and gays can always adopt. The APA is right in focusing on one's ability to function because that's what's most important in sociaty.

 

[Gregmm6]

It's true that one doesn't choose their sexual orientation either way, but heterosexuality is biologicaly congruent while homosexuality is a birth defect, so that's a diference. I don't believe in discriminating against people with incurable birth defects.

There is no reason to believe that homosexuality is not biologically congruent as well.

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[Ringo]

. Only within the last fifty years or so has it been defended as a condition with which one is born.

~ The Greatest Wisdom Of Man Is Foolishness To God ~​

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Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. Because of this, God gave them over to the shameful lusts and sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. (Romans:1)

 

[Blueshell]

There is no reason to believe that homosexuality is not biologically congruent as well.

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Homosexuality is the expression of the reproductive instinct with a sex one cannot reproduce with. That's the incongruency.

 

[Gregmm6]

Homosexuality is the expression of the reproductive instinct with a sex one cannot reproduce with. That's the incongruency.

This relies on the assumption that an expression of reproductive instinct with a sex that one can reproduce with is necessary for biological congruence. The fact that we can quite readily observe homosexuality in biological systems raises questions about the validity of that assumption.

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[Blueshell]

This relies on the assumption that an expression of reproductive instinct with a sex that one can reproduce with is necessary for biological congruence. The fact that we can quite readily observe homosexuality in biological systems raises questions about the validity of that assumption.

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Be carful, we observe behaviors worse than murder in other species as well. Compair only like items: humans with humans.

 

[Gregmm6]

Be carful, we observe behaviors worse than murder in other species as well. Compair only like items: humans with humans.

Comparing humans to humans we can readily observe homosexuality in biology. This raises questions about the validity of the assumption that homosexuality is incongruent with biology.

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[Blueshell]

Comparing humans to humans we can readily observe homosexuality in biology. This raises questions about the validity of the assumption that homosexuality is incongruent with biology.

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Of course we see it in biology, we see down syndrom in biology too. That doesn't prove anything.

 

[Gregmm6]

Of course we see it in biology, we see down syndrom in biology too. That doesn't prove anything.

Yes. And?

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[Blueshell]

Yes. And?

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You brought it up.

 

[Gregmm6]

You brought it up.

No. You're the one that brought up questions of proof.

 

[Blueshell]

No. You're the one that brought up questions of proof.

You won't find the words "questions of proof" in any of my posts. I never asked for proof.

 

[Gregmm6]

You won't find the words "questions of proof" in any of my posts. I never asked for proof.

I never said that you did. You're the one, though, that started in about whether something proves something else. All I'm asking is what that has to do with our discussion.

 

[Blueshell]

I never said that you did. You're the one, though, that started in about whether something proves something else. All I'm asking is what that has to do with our discussion.

I haven't don any such thing. I don't think your posts have anything to do with the discussion.

 

[Gregmm6]

I haven't don any such thing. I don't think your posts have anything to do with the discussion.

Yes you did. Check out the last sentence you wrote in post 129.You're the one that made the claim that one thing doesn't prove another, remember?

 

[Blueshell]

Yes you did. Check out the last sentence you wrote in post 129.You're the one that made the claim that one thing doesn't prove another, remember?

Yeah that line isn't anything close to starting in about whether something proves something else.

 

[Gregmm6]

Yeah that line isn't anything close to starting in about whether something proves something else.

Haha. Of course it is.

 

[1sgdavo]

Every player gets a trophy no matter how good or bad they played. No one should have hurt feelings. This was the start of the down ward slide. Really it is my generations fault. We never wanted our children to know rejection or pain.


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[Farmhood]

Think again if you believe it can't happen to you. Soon they are going to come for you and stop you from talking...

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sinful nature is always hostile to God....