For people who doubt the .380 can do the job.

[cluznar]

Here you go all you big caliber people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u6-9VXiBDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfKSXWLNxg


Now tell me the .380 is not enough gun.

 

[Stan45]

If you could put bad guys in in a cage and wait for just the right angle maybe a .22 short would work.
But REAL life is not the same.
But you use what ever makes you happy.

 

[Road Toad]

Point blank right between the eyes, most any round would work.

 

[rifleshooter474]

The shooting the .380 at the Auto glass was very impressive to me,owning a Walther S&W PPK/s .380 I always thought it could do a pretty good job when needed.
I have found the small PPK/s blow back firing system,can get seven shots off quickly and on target. Not my EDC but when I do carry it I trust it.

 

[r1derbike]

Here you go all you big caliber people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u6-9VXiBDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfKSXWLNxg


Now tell me the .380 is not enough gun.

Your wish is my command. The .380 is not enough gun. If that's all you have, by all means use it. It's better than nothing.

 

[DavidWhite]

Takes a big man to trap a boar, take all the time in the world to get the shot JUST RIGHT to not even get an instant kill.
You would have been quicker using a mallet.

And just for the record:
I don't hunt. I don't kill things that I don't have to and I certainly didn't expect a video of animal cruelty on a gun forum...

Any and or all respect that you (clunzar) could have ever possibly earned from me is gone.
Period.

 

[rifleshooter474]

Takes a big man to trap a boar, take all the time in the world to get the shot JUST RIGHT to not even get an instant kill.
You would have been quicker using a mallet.

And just for the record:
I don't hunt. I don't kill things that I don't have to and I certainly didn't expect a video of animal cruelty on a gun forum...

Any and or all respect that you (clunzar) could have ever possibly earned from me is gone.
Period.

.I agree posting the shooting of a caged animal on this forum, was IMHO a mistake and in poor taste. The video of the windshield glass was a good video and was all that was needed.

 

[r1derbike]

Final wrap-up of common .380 rounds (FMJ - Hollow Point).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtPHYwcDts

Use whatever you desire. YMMV

 

[aacx22]

The thing that has made the most sense to me is to use the most gun that you can comfortably shoot well, then practice with and carry that. The on target 380 is better than the off target 45. But, if you can shoot a round that has better specifications, then why limit yourself? From what I have observed... you don't seem to get a lot of recoil reduction going from a 9 to a 380. If you did, then it would seem like a good choice for people that do not handle recoil well. But if the kick is the same and the impact is less... not sure what you are getting aside from a smaller gun. Even if that is what you are looking for though... It doesn't seem like 380s are significantly smaller than the subcompact 9s anymore.

 

[rifleshooter474]

Final wrap-up of common .380 rounds (FMJ - Hollow Point).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtPHYwcDts

Use whatever you desire. YMMV

Myself I had a hard time understand what he was saying,and could not read what was on many of the box's of .380 Ammo.
Am sure he knew what the was trying to convey to the viewers,but I just did not get much from it.

 

[rifleshooter474]

The thing that has made the most sense to me is to use the most gun that you can comfortably shoot well, then practice with and carry that. The on target 380 is better than the off target 45. But, if you can shoot a round that has better specifications, then why limit yourself? From what I have observed... you don't seem to get a lot of recoil reduction going from a 9 to a 380. If you did, then it would seem like a good choice for people that do not handle recoil well. But if the kick is the same and the impact is less... not sure what you are getting aside from a smaller gun. Even if that is what you are looking for though... It doesn't seem like 380s are significantly smaller than the subcompact 9s anymore.

Today we do have many really good subcompact 9mm handguns,and they would be IMHO better then a small.380 handgun for carry. Myself I just wanted a PPK/s .380 just to see what they were all about.

 

[schadenfreude]

Here you go all you big caliber people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u6-9VXiBDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfKSXWLNxg


Now tell me the .380 is not enough gun.

Sure. The .380 is not enough gun.

If the .380 was really "enough gun", then there'd be no need for people to try and prove it by engaging in ridiculous stunts like this (shooting a caged animal).

 

[bofh]

Myself I had a hard time understand what he was saying,and could not read what was on many of the box's of .380 Ammo.
Am sure he knew what the was trying to convey to the viewers,but I just did not get much from it.

This video was a summary of his earlier tests, for which there was a video for each tested round. There is also the blog.

 

[rifleshooter474]

This video was a summary of his earlier tests, for which there was a video for each tested round. There is also the blog.

Is there a link to his blog?

 

[bofh]

This video was a summary of his earlier tests, for which there was a video for each tested round. There is also the blog.

Is there a link to his blog?

Yes, see my post, you quoted. It's right there.

 

[rifleshooter474]

Yes, see my post, you quoted. It's right there.

Thanks I just over looked seeing it.

 

[aacx22]

Today we do have many really good subcompact 9mm handguns,and they would be IMHO better then a small.380 handgun for carry. Myself I just wanted a PPK/s .380 just to see what they were all about.

I have a PPK clone. I do want to replace it with a Walther though, once I get back from my mobilization.

 

[Kennydale]

I have been carrying an LCP as a BUG (weakside front pocket). I just don't like it. I don't have much faith in .380's stopping power , and even feel .380ACP guns are prone to failure in action (Even the Glock G42). It doesn't have anything to do with snobbery or My Firearm Is Better Then Yours. There have been times (for certain reasons) I'd leave my 9mm and .40S&W pistols home, and pocket carry the LCP. But i said a prayer those times that I would not really need to use a firearm.

 

[XD40scinNC]

Bad guys are cowards, and they will turn tail and run away from anyone shooting at them. Many successful self-defense shootings have occurred with 22lr, 25ACP, 32ACP and .380.

Bad guys don't check out the caliber when a victim draws, they immediately realize they made a poor choice when picking out their victim.

 

[Bikenut]

I've heard folks say they carry a 9mm, 40, or .45, as primary and then say they carry a .22, .25, .32, or .380, as a back up. Well... if a .22, etc, is good enough for a back up why aren't those folks carrying a .22, etc, for a primary as well?

Bottom line is really quite simple... carry the largest caliber in the size of gun that you will actually carry that you personally... and I mean YOU personally... can shoot the most accurately. Doesn't matter what anyone else says because only hits make holes (regardless of the size of the bullet) and misses make no holes of any size.

Only holes count.