SAA for everyday carry?

[cougar98332]

You go right ahead and use your SAA in a life threatening situation where your technique goes to crap, where your aiming goes to crap and where then you have to use fine motor skills to reload your wheel gun.

If they are such great defensive weapons I'm sure every law enforcement agency and military unit would still be using them.

The 1890s are calling...

LOL

Actually, 1870's. You seem anti revolver, perhaps you had some bad experience with one once, like completely miss the target. You stick to your glock. Maybe one day youll be able handle a gun like a grown up.

Btw, what will you do when all your mags fail or are empty, you ever try a combat reload first having to load the mag? Anyone with any real experience knows that its not that difficult to reload. That phrase is usually touted by internet commandos with little to no real world experience.



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[Ringo]

The gun that you should carry is the one that you have trained with, are confident with, and are accurate with. If anyone condemns you for your choice of carry, it is he that is the fool. Let us know how the new recoil feels after shortening that barrel. I, for one, am interested in hearing back.

There wasn't much difference at all in the recoil after the shortening of the barrel in either .44 spl. or the magnum round. But wow, is the balance nice! :biggrin:

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[Amsdorf]

I won't bother to tick off the various combat pistol classes I've taken, you SAA fanatics would just dismiss them.

But.....

You are doing yourself and others an EXTREME disservice to encourage ANYONE to carry a SAA self-defence.

I concede that having some kind of gun is better than having none, but....

You have got to be a complete moron to think that a SAA revolver is the best choice for self-defense.

I suspect most people saying this have never had any legitimate professional training in combat pistol use.

So, you go right ahead and keep your cowboy pistol but do not for a moment think you are actually capable of defending yourself in any situation involving a real life threat with multiple threats.

That's why I again would simply say...please let me know the name of the funeral home where we should send flowers for your funeral.

 

[Warbirds]

There wasn't much difference at all in the recoil after the shortening of the barrel in either .44 spl. or the magnum round. But wow, is the balance nice! :biggrin:

You still with us Ringo? I thought you were declared a dead man walking 5 days ago. Thanks for saving me the cost of flowers.

 

[Ringo]

I won't bother to tick off the various combat pistol classes I've taken, you SAA fanatics would just dismiss them.

But.....

You are doing yourself and others an EXTREME disservice to encourage ANYONE to carry a SAA self-defence.

I concede that having some kind of gun is better than having none, but....

You have got to be a complete moron to think that a SAA revolver is the best choice for self-defense.

I suspect most people saying this have never had any legitimate professional training in combat pistol use.

So, you go right ahead and keep your cowboy pistol but do not for a moment think you are actually capable of defending yourself in any situation involving a real life threat with multiple threats.

That's why I again would simply say...please let me know the name of the funeral home where we should send flowers for your funeral.

In the first place, I never said that a SAA revolver is the best choice for self-defense. I said that "I was raised with SAA revolvers since I was 10 years old, it's still my favorite handgun and favorite to carry. I also said that I know there are those who like to criticize my choice of SAA for carry/self defense, so let me assure everyone that I'm very confident, accustomed, and experienced with my choice". The 1911 was "another one" of the guns that I grew up with and it also became second nature to me. I own many guns today, 1911's, Glocks, and double & single action revolvers. Except for the Glocks, I've been shooting all of these guns for over 50 years (including military/infantry) and know beyond a doubt that I can defend myself with any one of them in any situation involving a real life threat, including the SAA. I live in a very quiet small town in the desert, so even the chance of those multiple threats of your inflated imagination happening here are a million to one. It was part of my real life experience and training that influenced my moving out of the big city jungle and into the desert. Guess you haven't reached the plan ahead level of your training yet. So let me know the name of the funeral home where I can send flowers for your funeral, living in the jungle subject to situations of high crime involving real life multiple threats, you'll most likely be cashing out long before me.
Nuff said.

 

[wolf_fire]

There wasn't much difference at all in the recoil after the shortening of the barrel in either .44 spl. or the magnum round. But wow, is the balance nice! :biggrin:

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Thanks for update on shortening your barrel and I'm glad to hear that the work came out great and that you are happy with the way it shoots. I don't know if you know this about me Ringo, but I am law enforcement trained and a Glock Armorer; I'm also a Range Officer for LE, and I'm training to be a firearms instructor for LE. The number one rule with any firearm's training is to know your weapon and be the best you can be with it. From your initial post, that is exactly what you have said you are doing with your weapon. I personally have seen old timers in LE with their grandfathered revolvers smoke the snot out of the Glock guys. I've also seen them reload faster than the Glock guys too. I can't explain it other than pure training and technique through the years. The more proficient you are with your weapon (any weapon), the more likely you are to walk away from a deadly situation rather than be carried away. Just as I wouldn't tell the old-timers that they need to switch to a Glock (this would require much time to unlearn old skills and relearn new ones), I would never tell you to switch your method of carry. You are trained in it, you are proficient in it... the worst thing that could happen is to put a semi-auto in your holster and have your learned muscle memory from a revolver play havoc with you in a life-or-death situation while grabbing for a semi-auto. Keep your SAA and love every minute of it.

Yes, a lot of this post was for Amsdorf. :biggrin:

 

[goodnews]

I am a huge fan of SA Revolvers. The only one I have at the mo is a Ruger single 6 convertible, and I miss my NM Super Blackhawk 44M. My wish list is NM Blackhawk, stainless, in .357 with 4 5/8 Barrel. They just fit the hand right, and I shoot them better than any auto I have ever owned. I have taken out two large beavers with my little single six (using Mag) with one shot each time.

Look, I am all for defense of self, family, and property, with lethal force. I believe it is a human right, not just a constitutional right. However, there are more reasons for guns than just shooting bad guys. I see so many posts by folk who are caught up in that mode only, and nothing else. For some it may be because that is all they CAN do where they live, but even Cop friends of mine enjoy plinking, hunting, competition shooting, etc. Everything is not just about blowing away rapists. ...although they need a good dose of lead for sure.

 

[Ringo]

Thanks for update on shortening your barrel and I'm glad to hear that the work came out great and that you are happy with the way it shoots. I don't know if you know this about me Ringo, but I am law enforcement trained and a Glock Armorer; I'm also a Range Officer for LE, and I'm training to be a firearms instructor for LE. The number one rule with any firearm's training is to know your weapon and be the best you can be with it. From your initial post, that is exactly what you have said you are doing with your weapon. I personally have seen old timers in LE with their grandfathered revolvers smoke the snot out of the Glock guys. I've also seen them reload faster than the Glock guys too. I can't explain it other than pure training and technique through the years. The more proficient you are with your weapon (any weapon), the more likely you are to walk away from a deadly situation rather than be carried away. Just as I wouldn't tell the old-timers that they need to switch to a Glock (this would require much time to unlearn old skills and relearn new ones), I would never tell you to switch your method of carry. You are trained in it, you are proficient in it... the worst thing that could happen is to put a semi-auto in your holster and have your learned muscle memory from a revolver play havoc with you in a life-or-death situation while grabbing for a semi-auto. Keep your SAA and love every minute of it.

Yes, a lot of this post was for Amsdorf. :biggrin:

Thanks wolf_fire, yes, I'm very happy with the way it looks and shoots, and I couldn't agree with you more. There's only one thing that I feel I should clear up here. The SAA is my all time favorite handgun and I carry it because it "IS" my all time favorite. I'm not trapped in any time-warp, I'm a gun "lover", always have been. I'm just as experienced and proficient with 1911's, Glocks, and double action revolvers as I am with the SAA. My father was in LE, I was weened on guns. Guns to me are very simple to master and shooting is just plain fun. I don't have the drawbacks that Amsdorf implies simply because I happen to favor the SAA over other handguns. I don't know what Amsdorf's problem is here, just because he is brain dead when it comes to SAA revolvers doesn't mean everyone else is. I only shoot one bullet at a time regardless of it's capacity. I don't waste ammo and therefore I never shoot without having a visible open target. A really dumb argument, I should never have conversed with him, like I said in my OP,"I know there are those who like to criticize my choice of SAA for carry/self defense, so let me assure everyone that I'm very confident, accustomed, and experienced with my choice". My bad, I should never have ignored The Fool's Law..."Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience".

 

[Amsdorf]

I am a huge fan of SA Revolvers. The only one I have at the mo is a Ruger single 6 convertible, and I miss my NM Super Blackhawk 44M. My wish list is NM Blackhawk, stainless, in .357 with 4 5/8 Barrel. They just fit the hand right, and I shoot them better than any auto I have ever owned. I have taken out two large beavers with my little single six (using Mag) with one shot each time.

Look, I am all for defense of self, family, and property, with lethal force. I believe it is a human right, not just a constitutional right. However, there are more reasons for guns than just shooting bad guys. I see so many posts by folk who are caught up in that mode only, and nothing else. For some it may be because that is all they CAN do where they live, but even Cop friends of mine enjoy plinking, hunting, competition shooting, etc. Everything is not just about blowing away rapists. ...although they need a good dose of lead for sure.

Since the topic of this thread is SAA for every day carry, your comments really don't pertain.

 

[Amsdorf]

Thanks wolf_fire, yes, I'm very happy with the way it looks and shoots, and I couldn't agree with you more. There's only one thing that I feel I should clear up here. The SAA is my all time favorite handgun and I carry it because it "IS" my all time favorite. I'm not trapped in any time-warp, I'm a gun "lover", always have been. I'm just as experienced and proficient with 1911's, Glocks, and double action revolvers as I am with the SAA. My father was in LE, I was weened on guns. Guns to me are very simple to master and shooting is just plain fun. I don't have the drawbacks that Amsdorf implies simply because I happen to favor the SAA over other handguns. I don't know what Amsdorf's problem is here, just because he is brain dead when it comes to SAA revolvers doesn't mean everyone else is. I only shoot one bullet at a time regardless of it's capacity. I don't waste ammo and therefore I never shoot without having a visible open target. A really dumb argument, I should never have conversed with him, like I said in my OP,"I know there are those who like to criticize my choice of SAA for carry/self defense, so let me assure everyone that I'm very confident, accustomed, and experienced with my choice". My bad, I should never have ignored The Fool's Law..."Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience".

Typical response when you finally run out of any meaningful argument to support your choice of a SAA for self-defense.

 

[nzumbrun]

I completely agree with wolf_fire. As long as your are proficient with your weapon and confident; it is a great choice for you. SAAs worked pretty well in the Old West and there isn't a reason they shouldn't work well now in the hands of a skilled individual.

 

[Amsdorf]

I completely agree with wolf_fire. As long as your are proficient with your weapon and confident; it is a great choice for you. SAAs worked pretty well in the Old West and there isn't a reason they shouldn't work well now in the hands of a skilled individual.

Sure when most other people you were facing were using SAA revolvers...

Ridiculous argument.

 

[Ringo]

Sure when most other people you were facing were using SAA revolvers...

Ridiculous argument.

One shot at a time regardless. So yes, ridiculous argument.

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[Amsdorf]

In case there is anyone still reading this who may be tempted to consider a Single Action revolver a good choice for carrying as your primary self-defense weapon, here are reasons NOT to do it:

(1) You are limited to six rounds.
(2) It requires you to engage in fine motor skills to get the next round into action.
(3) You will take eyes/attention/sights off the threat.
(4) It assume a high level of skill to reload in any kind of quick manner.
(5) You must assume you will be facing only ONE assailant.


It is a very foolish choice to make for EDC/SA.

There is no REPUTABLE self-defense trainer who would ever recommend the use of SAA for EDC/SD/home defense.

 

[Ringo]

In case there is anyone still reading this who may be tempted to consider a Single Action revolver a good choice for carrying as your primary self-defense weapon, here are reasons NOT to do it:

(1) You are limited to six rounds.
(2) It requires you to engage in fine motor skills to get the next round into action.
(3) You will take eyes/attention/sights off the threat.
(4) It assume a high level of skill to reload in any kind of quick manner.
(5) You must assume you will be facing only ONE assailant.


It is a very foolish choice to make for EDC/SA.

There is no REPUTABLE self-defense trainer who would ever recommend the use of SAA for EDC/SD/home defense.

Proof once again that it's much more difficult to hide one's ignorance than it is to acquire knowledge.

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[supermedic08173]

I too grew up shooting single action and love the asthetics of a good SA but i keep mine now more for fun and conversation pieces. Before I got my CCW I would open carry my Beretta Stampede 45lc with a tooled and scrolled western style Cheyanne hip holster. I would get more coplements and questions like "your young are you even old enough to know how to shoot something like that?"

Doc Childs
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[supermedic08173]

You guys crack me up. It is so obvious that the people defending carrying a SAA pistol for self-defense have ZERO real world experience with CQB and what it means to face down a threat in a real gun fight.

But hey, it's a free country, feel free to play Mr. Cowboy, just don't say you weren't warned when the moment of crisis comes and all you are running with is a six shot SAA revolver.

If they are so great, as you guys claim, I'm sure the military and law enforcement would still be using them...oh, wait...sorry, I don't want to confuse any FUDDS with facts.

LOL.

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Veteran with cqb experience......my side arm sent one round then suffered a FTF this is why i am having my revolver fixed for my cce

Doc Childs
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"There's two fly flags above my land that really sum up how I feel. One flies high and proud, the red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake with a simple statement shown 'Don't tread on me' is what I believe and I'll take it to my grave." - Aaron Watson

 

[Ringo]

I too grew up shooting single action and love the asthetics of a good SA but i keep mine now more for fun and conversation pieces. Before I got my CCW I would open carry my Beretta Stampede 45lc with a tooled and scrolled western style Cheyanne hip holster. I would get more coplements and questions like "your young are you even old enough to know how to shoot something like that?"

Doc Childs
sig p250
"There's two fly flags above my land that really sum up how I feel. One flies high and proud, the red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake with a simple statement shown 'Don't tread on me' is what I believe and I'll take it to my grave." - Aaron Watson

When I open carry, my favorite is my Ruger New Vaquero carried in High Plain Drifter Rig. Always ooh's, awe's and compliments wherever I would go. Never a negative or anyone in shock. :biggrin:

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[Ringo]

I too grew up shooting single action and love the asthetics of a good SA but i keep mine now more for fun and conversation pieces. Before I got my CCW I would open carry my Beretta Stampede 45lc with a tooled and scrolled western style Cheyanne hip holster. I would get more coplements and questions like "your young are you even old enough to know how to shoot something like that?"

Doc Childs
sig p250
"There's two fly flags above my land that really sum up how I feel. One flies high and proud, the red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake with a simple statement shown 'Don't tread on me' is what I believe and I'll take it to my grave." - Aaron Watson

The Beretta Stampede 45lc is a beautiful SAA, I've always admired it.

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[supermedic08173]

When I open carry, my favorite is my Ruger New Vaquero carried in High Plain Drifter Rig. Always ooh's, awe's and compliments wherever I would go. Never a negative or anyone in shock. :biggrin:

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I have a buddy back home who oc an old maire's laig. Most beautiful piece of weaponry i have ever seen. Lookin to get one myself

Doc Childs
sig p250
"There's two fly flags above my land that really sum up how I feel. One flies high and proud, the red, the white, the blue. The other one's got a rattlesnake with a simple statement shown 'Don't tread on me' is what I believe and I'll take it to my grave." - Aaron Watson