One in chamber? Yes / No
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HD-kutz
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How I carry isn't relevant but that being said there are some interesting answers on the thread. "Designed" read almost any owners manual for example Glock and they don't say +1. Most military just a few years back didn't carry +1.
I'm a little longer in the tooth then many and this seems to be a last couple decade thing.
One other thing to note is that many that worry about milliseconds are carrying with high level retention, firearm tucked in behind a shirt and then perhaps even a jacket over that, seems cumbersome and a potential disaster.
I'm a little longer in the tooth then many and this seems to be a last couple decade thing.
One other thing to note is that many that worry about milliseconds are carrying with high level retention, firearm tucked in behind a shirt and then perhaps even a jacket over that, seems cumbersome and a potential disaster.
Carrying without one in the chamber is like being in the heat of the moment and taking a viagra and then waiting 30-40 minutes for it to take effect. Maybe this isn't a good analogy but I think the sentiment holds true. If you need your firearm for a dynamic critical incident I wouldn't kid myself into thinking I would have time to rack a round. You could potentially be fighting with an attacker on the ground, or using one arm to keep a knife wielding assailant at bay, if you have one in the chamber you have a chance of getting a round off.
schadenfreude
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One in the chamber?
Always, since there is no guarantee that I will have the time and a hand free to chamber a round.
Always, since there is no guarantee that I will have the time and a hand free to chamber a round.
Kramer1113
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Over the years I have found many people who do not carry with one in the chamber. There are a lot of reasons. Guns go off when the trigger is pulled. I always carry with a chambered round. My SR9c is at an exact arms reach from me right now as I'm in bed, flat on my back with my back out.
If you need to convince yourself that your gun will not discharge, here is the test. Cock your weapon. No round in the chamber. Put your loaded mag in. Holster your weapon. Carry as usual. See how many times over the next week or two your weapon would have gone off. It won't. Now go train. A Chambered round is a happy round.
Most failures happen when racking the slide. Imagine how many would fail in a high stress situation?
Remember, your gun only goes off when you pull the trigger.
If you need to convince yourself that your gun will not discharge, here is the test. Cock your weapon. No round in the chamber. Put your loaded mag in. Holster your weapon. Carry as usual. See how many times over the next week or two your weapon would have gone off. It won't. Now go train. A Chambered round is a happy round.
Most failures happen when racking the slide. Imagine how many would fail in a high stress situation?
Remember, your gun only goes off when you pull the trigger.
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FNWylde
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IMHO, if anyone thinks they can drop both hands to manipulate a gun while repeatedly getting punched in the face and still have both the time and focus to ready a weapon and successfully use it in self defense, well, won't.
Firefighterchen
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Remember, +1 is always chambered, but chambered isn't always +1.
People draw the line in the sand at different places. Some draw the line before they chamber a round, some draw the line after covering the sand in all that clothing...in the end is the operators choice, they get to live or die with that decision.
I open carry +1 in a level 1 retention. Doesn't get much faster than that with proper training.
if you like me have the right to carry concealed you should have one in the chamber. in a life or die ordeal if you have to spend time chambering a round it could be die it takes someone one sec. to pull the tiger , and two to three to chamber and pull the trigger do the math
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FNWylde
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In addition to one in, my preference is da/sa without a manual safety, decocked in my DeSantis IWB or CQC OWB. Don't need no safety to worry about if I find I'm fighting for life, mine or my family's.
LockandLoad
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No other way.... Unless you enjoy the nickname Victim
HD-kutz
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At this point there are 134 posts in this thread. I'll be if everybody was really honest not one poster has been in a situation where that split second would have made a difference.
Lemmings tend to be abundant on firearms forums. I've been in every low down dangerous place in the country and in those 35 years in trucking I've found that more important than anything is being aware, not allowing a situation where I need that split second. I also tend not to wear an abundance of covering and super levels of retention........all things that can lead up to fail.
"The best example of good training is to never get in a fight." ~ Clint Smith
Lemmings tend to be abundant on firearms forums. I've been in every low down dangerous place in the country and in those 35 years in trucking I've found that more important than anything is being aware, not allowing a situation where I need that split second. I also tend not to wear an abundance of covering and super levels of retention........all things that can lead up to fail.
"The best example of good training is to never get in a fight." ~ Clint Smith
Drzzit
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Also drive truck, been at it for about 20 years, and I have to agree. Lots of bad places in the country, so being aware of Your surroundings is VERY GOOD advice. It might be the difference in a life or death situation that You might not have gotten into, in the first place.
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FNWylde
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And if you would ever have needed that split second, you'd be a statistic and not be posting about carrying an unloaded gun. $.02
Steve Kittel
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I've only had my gun (XD-40) about 6 months and a CC permit for a little over a month. I currently do not...some may argue you lose that one second advantage, but I think its just as easy to chamber as you bring the gun up on target. My worry is mine has no manual safety, only a trigger and backstrap safety.
whodat2710
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In the Coast Guard we carry chambered but not +1. We left the Station with 3 15rd mags, chambered a round and went about our day. I find the +1 imperative with "pocket" pistols. When I have my regular size gun with a 15rd mag I don't really worry about it. With a spare mag there isn't much difference between 30 and 31 rounds. My LC9 only holds a single stack of 7, so +1 and a spare mag only totals 15. Short answer: Always chambered.
And I hate on COPS when they find a gun on a criminal (I mean "suspect") and they sound surprised and offended that the guy had a round chambered.
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