Why did he ask for a permit? No permit is required to open carry in New Hampshire. Just curious, did he request ID to prove you were who the permits belonged to? And why the request to notify the owners you legally carry a gun? Do you have to notify them of legally carrying a cell phone?
I do know in New Hampshire you need to give name and city of residency when a LEO ask. I do think that having multiple permits left an impression saying that I take firearms seriously.
594:2 Questioning and Detaining Suspects. – A peace officer may stop any person abroad whom he has reason to suspect is committing, has committed or is about to commit a crime, and may demand of him his name, address, business abroad and where he is going.
Navy the philosopher......If one does not recognize a fishing expedition, they may unknowingly find themselves on the wrong end of the fishhook.
BIGJOHN621, exactly right! Very good post! I think the right answer is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.
Must we be obstinant simply because it's our right to do so? I think being cordial with an LEO can be just as effective. For instance, "Sir, here are my permits, but are you aware that......?"
I know that approach has worked better for me. A little diplomacy goes a long way, as any LCDR knows! :haha:
Had the cops called on me today while I was writing a parking sticker. All because someone felt that they were "entitled" (officers words, not mine) to have their visitor park in their numbered space, which is against the rules. The officer came talked with me, then the owner, then me, let me go, and went back to the owner. I never did put a sticker on the car, but I think they got the message (hopefully). At no time was I being held, at no time was I asked to unload and make safe. Shook hands with the officer and walked away. He did say to inform the owners that I do walk around with a firearm. I do not want that to happen, but I do understand why he states that. He stated there was nothing the police can do since its the law.
He did ask for permit and I gave them all permits (NH, FL, Utah). He did joke that they do get calls about someone with a firearm at dunkin dounuts. He stated "welcome to New Hampshire."
Overall it was a good expierence. Just a little nerve racking being the first time.
I can clearly state now "when seconds count, cops are minutes away" as it took about 10 minutes from the time of the call to the time the officer arrived.
Maybe something like these: Funny Parking note
USN2Pulpit,
Would you mind if we take a couple minutes to diplomatically examine some facts associated with your comments?
In my post #5 I merely asked a few simple questions. I did not in any way state that either the OP's actions, nor the police officer's actions were right or wrong. I only asked what was the relevence of the officer's requests/statements to the situation.
In my post #7 I merely posted a statute and stated a fact. Again, I did not state in any way that either the OP's actions, nor the police officer's actions were right or wrong.
My post #9 was nothing more than a general response to BIGJOHN621's post.
Now, let us contrast my comments to those made by BIGJOHN621, which you have thrown your support behind. Approximately 80% of BIGJOHN621's post #8 is nothing more than mockery of a group of people who choose to exercise their 4th Amendment rights rather than waive them at the first sight of a badge. BIGJOHN621 makes one statement that actually contributes anything factual to the discussion: "Perhaps the permit question was not valid, but that's a training issue", followed by yet another statement of mockery, "not one to start the protest marches on City Hall." I don't see anyone suggesting any marches on City Hall in the previous conversation, do you?
So, I am curious as to why you would claim BIGJOHN621's post as "exactly right" when it contains very little other than mockery borne out of a prejudice against those who advocate exercising rights guaranteed by the Constitution that you once were sworn to support and defend? Is that your definition of diplomacy, to mock those that you don't agree with? Given the CPO anchor in your signature line and the word "pulpit" in your user name, can we assume that you are a retired Chief Petty Officer of the US Navy who is now a minister? May I ask if BIGJOHN621's mocking post, which you declare to support as being "exactly right", exemplifies the values that a Chief Petty Officer or a minister in the service of God should hold?
Ouch! If I see one of those on my windshield, that will just confirm that I should not be taking on a job parking cars...what do you call them? -- valet??? :lol:Maybe something like these: Funny Parking note
Precisely correct. Respect is a two-way street, which begs the question, "Why are so many LEOs coming down the street at me in MY lane?" If more (read: all) LEOs entered interactions with lawfully armed citizens with that sense of respect for our Constitutional rights, threads like this one would be the exception on sites like USACarry, rather than, as they do seem, the rule.At the end of the day, it is about respect. It is a two way street.
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