I have both the Taurus PT-111 in 9mm and the PT-145 in .45. I love them both and have never had a problem with either one of them. They both hold 10 rounds in the magazine and are very concealable. I'm not sure if they are still in production so you may need to find a used one. They are accurate and feel good in my hand. Taurus has a lifetime warranty and will stand behind their product. I know some people badmouth Taurus, but I wonder if they have ever owned or shot one. I am very happy with these handguns and would recommend them to anyone.
If you have a few dollars more, look at the S&W Shield in 9mm, also an excellent CCW handgun
So, YOU have absolutely NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with either of these firearm brands? If that is the case (it certainly seems so) then you cannot have a valid opinion, and shouldnt even be posting in this thread.... Although you do have the right to post if you wish, everyone else here has the right to laugh at your unfounded (other than by hearsay) opinion of what some other dudes say about something you have never done....In contrast, many good reports about firearms are from people who don't train and practice the crap out of their equipment and would never run into issues in the first place. All guns break eventually, if they are actually being used. The question is under what conditions and when. That's why I value the experience of instructors that see the same guns over and over fail in their classes and the same guns over and over making it without any issues.
In contrast, many good reports about firearms are from people who don't train and practice the crap out of their equipment and would never run into issues in the first place. All guns break eventually, if they are actually being used. The question is under what conditions and when. That's why I value the experience of instructors that see the same guns over and over fail in their classes and the same guns over and over making it without any issues.
So, YOU have absolutely NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with either of these firearm brands? If that is the case (it certainly seems so) then you cannot have a valid opinion, and shouldnt even be posting in this thread.... Although you do have the right to post if you wish, everyone else here has the right to laugh at your unfounded (other than by hearsay) opinion of what some other dudes say about something you have never done....
Thank you, everyone, for all the advice. We rented all the guns we were considering and some that we weren't and our results were surprising. The recoil of the tiny 380s were unacceptable to my wife, so the TCP was out, and my top ten list flipped almost exactly. The SCCY ranked towards the bottom of the firing experience, worsted only by the Taurus Millennium G2. The top two, after firing, were the Kahr CW9 and the Kahr CM9. My wife's top two were the Ruger LC380 and the Kahr CW380. I hadn't read up much on the Kahr's, because I thought they were too expensive. After a great deal of more research into all the guns on our list, we decided to go with the CW9 for me, and the CT380 for her.
I ordered them from Tombstone Tactical, with a spare mag for the .380, for just over $650 for both. They arrived Thursday and will be going to the range on Monday.
I have been looking at the TCP for my wife and possibly for my daughters to carry. What are the number of reasons you don't recommend the TCP?
I am considering the following pocket .380s for my wife:
Beretta Pico
Ruger LCP
Taurus TCP
S&W Bodyguard
Colt Mustang XSP
Kahr CT380
Kahr CW380
Diamondback DB380
Glock 42
SCCY CPX-3 (if it ever makes it to market)
In 9mm, I am considering the folowing for myself and possibly my wife if she likes and can fire them:
SCCY CPX-2
Taurus 709
Ruger LC9s
Beretta Nano
S&W MP Shield
Glock 43
We will be going to a local range that rents guns and will be able to fire most, but not all, of these.
The statement "How much is your life worth?" is BS and pretentious. Why should I pay $500 or up if I can pay half that and get a reliable handgun. "You get what you pay for" is the same. I'm currently driving a well cared for older Mercedes. It has just as many issues as the average car that cost half as much new. Except that it costs twice as much to get things fixed. I have been to the gun specific forums and have read just as many horror stories about the Glocks and S&Ws as I found for the Taurus and Sccy's. The one thing that I did find different was the customer service and warranty stories. Taurus and SCCY appear to take care of problems much more promptly and with less hassle than any other manufacturer that I read about. If you don't like Taurus, or you don't like SCCY, then tell me about your experience with them and why. But don't just put them down because they cost less.
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