I thought this was a pretty good post by Janq on Defensive Carry referring to an article that was posted about a private citizen with a CCW that shot an undercover police officer. Now depending on the details he may have been justified. From reading that story it seems that he was. But I think this was a good post relating to road rage and people with CCW in general.
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This is the second road rage with a CCW and cop story I've seen in two days (!).
We citizen CCW types must brush off road raging jerks, who just might maybe be a cop.
This scenario and the other from yesterday are exactly what the antis figured would occur with allowance of legalized concealed carry.
Cooler heads must prevail, that is a moral if not legal requirement toward being a concealed carry person.
Who the heck cares if the other guy gets through the light ahead of you...life is too short to sweat that and take/give bullets over it.
- Janq
This could have been avoided.
1) do not pull up to the driver side of the other car.
2) do not exchange harsh words
I agree!
This is the second road rage with a CCW and cop story I've seen in two days (!).
We citizen CCW types must brush off road raging jerks, who just might maybe be a cop.
This scenario and the other from yesterday are exactly what the antis figured would occur with allowance of legalized concealed carry.
Cooler heads must prevail, that is a moral if not legal requirement toward being a concealed carry person.
Who the heck cares if the other guy gets through the light ahead of you...life is too short to sweat that and take/give bullets over it.
- Janq
The only thing is the article said that the guns came out after there were angry words and gestures. It doesn't say if both drivers were guilty of the words and gestures, but I'm guessing that's the case. It's critical for someone who's carrying a CCH to avoid situations of this sort. If one of us should find it necessary to employ our handgun in a self defense situation, it would certainly be of benefit to be able to say that we did nothing to escalate the situation into becomming a gunfight.My wife and I loaded up the truck and moved to Dixie from Redondo Beach, CA in 1992, just a month or so after the Rodney King riots settled down. Long before those riots though, and also long before CA Chiefs and Sheriffs trusted almost anyone with a CWP, people were shooting each other on the Harbor and Santa Monica Freeways fairly regularly. It got common-place enough that as early as '85, I had a bumper-sticker on my car that I bought from a street-vendor in Venice Beach that said, "COVER ME HONEY, I'M CHANGING LANES!" I know it was at least '85 because that's when I met my wife and she blew Diet Coke through her nose when she saw it! HA! That was our first date and she's been coverin' me ever since!
Anyhow......
This take on the link doesn't make a lick of sense to me. The shooter said that the road-raging guy (the UC cop) got out of his car and approached his wife's side of the car with a gun pointed directly at her. He also said the UC never identified himself as a cop.
Point being, the situation described in that link is exactly the reason I carry, to be able to defend myself and my wife from nut-jobs with guns, whether they're also nut-jobs with a badge hidden somewhere on their person or not. I can't for the life of me see how this particular shooter could've "brushed off" this particular road-rager. I'm actually pretty proud of the guy for waiting until he was confronted with a weapon before using his. Not that the UC's car with a raging maniac in it couldn't also be construed as a deadly weapon, but in any case, I have no criticism of this shooter if it went down as described. I think he did the right thing.
Blues
The only thing is the article said that the guns came out after there were angry words and gestures. It doesn't say if both drivers were guilty of the words and gestures, but I'm guessing that's the case.
It's critical for someone who's carrying a CCH to avoid situations of this sort. If one of us should find it necessary to employ our handgun in a self defense situation, it would certainly be of benefit to be able to say that we did nothing to escalate the situation into becomming a gunfight.
"when You Put On Your Gun Leave Your Middle Finger At Home"
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