I always carry with a round in the chamber. If, or when you need a concealed weapon you will have enough to think about without remembering you need to chamber a round. Use care when you holster your handgun, keep your finger or anything that could catch the trigger away. A holstered gun should have trigger protection, your handgun will not fire on its own, proper drawing and holstering will prevent accidents. The most important saftey device for any firearm is between you ears, always use it, always keep it on.
One in chamber? Yes / No
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Why would anyone carry if he/she isn't ready to shoot. Statistics show that gunfights last seconds and every second counts. As far as the previous post that stated something about the sound of a pistol or shotgun slide racking a shell into place. He is right, real thugs arent afraid of that noise and all you did was tell him your location.
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Why would anyone carry if he/she isn't ready to shoot. Statistics show that gunfights last seconds and every second counts. As far as the previous post that stated something about the sound of a pistol or shotgun slide racking a shell into place. He is right, real thugs arent afraid of that noise and all you did was tell him your location.
Why would anyone carry if he/she isn't ready to shoot. Statistics show that gunfights last seconds and every second counts. As far as the previous post that stated something about the sound of a pistol or shotgun slide racking a shell into place. He is right, real thugs arent afraid of that noise and all you did was tell him your location.
9MarineMike
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ALWAYS with "one in the pipe"! Pulling your gun, under duress, when fractions of a second count..............
GlassWolf
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I absolutely always have a round in the chamber at all times, as God intended! ::grin::
Safety? No issue at all. I keep my finger off the trigger and out of the trigger guard until I'm ready to pull the trigger, and my weapons were made in this century, so they have firing pin blocks and thus will not discharge simply by dropping or bumping them. The gun is safe as houses when it's in the holster. Now, as to why I cary with a round chambered? When it comes to a life or death confrontation, you're most likely not going to have the time to rack the slide and chamber a round before using the firearm. If you're in a parking lot and someone shoves you into your car while you're opening the door, and you're in a struggle with the aggressor, you're going to want that gun at the ready the moment the barrel clears the leather. That's only one example. I have been in, and spoken with many others who have also been in situations where a gun had to be drawn, and hardly any of them had the chance to rack a round into the chamber before pulling the trigger.
LoneStarTx
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If you don't feel safe carrying a round in chamber you are carrying an unsafe handgun or you haven't trained enough to safely carry. Safe gun handling is the essential key. If you aren't treating every gun as always loaded you aren't ready to carry. We licensed handgun carriers have put time, expense, education of laws and self-evaluation of motives and abilities before committing to EDC and are prepared to defend our lives and others. That means being prepared to act without delay of racking slide, loading magazine, removing from drawer or trunk of car. Diligence also requires we defend this right by preventing emotional based restrictive laws being enacted.
PistolPaKnPoppy
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Greetings all,
I have two weapons that I carry (concealed...of course!)
A SigP232 / 380 & my latest...Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 / 9mm
Both of them are "chambered!"
The Sig as you all already know, doesn't afford a safety whereas the Taurus does. Now, I do choose to keep the safety on whilst carrying my G2! I've never really thought about it...until this thread...hmm?
Any thoughts? Thanks for your time!
Yours in FREEDOM...
P3
Keep...
Yer Powder dry,
Yer MAG full, &
Yer Aim...DEAD ON!
I have two weapons that I carry (concealed...of course!)
A SigP232 / 380 & my latest...Taurus PT111 Millennium G2 / 9mm
Both of them are "chambered!"
The Sig as you all already know, doesn't afford a safety whereas the Taurus does. Now, I do choose to keep the safety on whilst carrying my G2! I've never really thought about it...until this thread...hmm?
Any thoughts? Thanks for your time!
Yours in FREEDOM...
P3
Keep...
Yer Powder dry,
Yer MAG full, &
Yer Aim...DEAD ON!
AndeyHall
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I too have the PT111 G2. Unbeatable gun for the price. Hell to me it's an unbeatable gun period, the price is just a huge bonus. Anyways, I carry with the safety both on and off depending on what holster I use. If I'm carrying in my remora holster, I really don't trust it as far as trigger guards go, so I keep the safety on, in a kydex holster though, I carry safety off because there's no way for the trigger to get pulled. However, if you're going to carry with a thumb safety on (and that does for any gun), you need to train yourself to take the safety off as part of your draw. Taking a safety off I would think is a fine motor skills that may not exist under adrenaline and stress.
GlassWolf
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Correction: The Sig Sauer does not offer a "manual external" safety. It does indeed have a number of internal safeties built-in to the firearm, such as a rolling pin block that prevents the firearm from discharging if dropped. The DA/SA trigger's long, heavy pull on the first (DA) shot is also a safety feature. That Sig is perfectly safe when handled correctly.
For the record, neither of my EDC guns have any external manual safeties. I prefer my guns that way.
PistolPaKnPoppy
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Thanks GW...Should've correctly stated that!! Thanks fer pointing that out!
Yours in FREEDOM...
P3
After reading some of these comments about chambered round , I wonder if any one has had to draw in public to defend them selves ( no LEO's ) ? Some states do not allow CCW to carry chambered . Idaho does not if IIRC . Of course I carry a revolver in CCW ( S&W Airweight 38 spc +P ) and a 590 in 9mm in open carry ( no round chambered ) . It is hard to imagine Mr or Mrs Ordinary citizen getting into a gun fight with say a home invader ( where all my guns are chambered ) or a nut case shooting up the locale grocery story or while crusing the mall ... , much less a gang of gun tote'n , drug induced frenzy criminals . I sincerly believe that the adrenialin rush would throw off the aim of all except for the highly trained pro that has been in that type of situation ... and yes I was in the military in Nam and carried an M60 , worked private security and carried a Chief's special 38 in CCW and also completed a FBI small arms combat course as well ( 1975 ) where I shot a 79 out of 80 with the snub nose 38 after being up for nearly 36 hours guarding German Lufwaffen air craft on private contract which was loaded with Red Stone missles etc . Yes , the concern was terrorists trying to blow up the AC ... and , I agree that if anyone thinks the LEO has a mandate to protect you before you get into trouble , you have another think comming ... We need to be responsible for our own and our famlies saftey eh ? that is why we carry because there are not nearly enuf cops to go around .... and way too many people thinking they can take what we have ....
GlassWolf
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I've never seen a CCW law that prevents carrying a chambered round. I am not saying it doesn't exist. I just haven't seen it. This sounds more like a may-issue blue state sort of liberal unicorns and rainbows world kind of requirement to me. I'd expect to see that somewhere like MD or CA or CT or NJ.
That siad, I have worked in armed security and executive protection and have had to draw my weapon, and even return fire in the past. Heck I've even had to initiate fire a few times (when the other person was using a car to try to run down the security officers.) Adrenaline dumps happen to everyone, even teh highly trained. The thing with CCW though, is that when I hear about citizens having to draw and fire their weapon, almost every time it turns out not to be a gang of drugged out crazies, or a mall shooting, etc.. what it turns out to be is either someone being attacked by a 150 pound boxer or pit bull, or someone being jumped by one or two individuals in a parking lot while getting into their car. I read a couple of people in areas like Atlanta, being blocked in at a stop light, and having 2 or 3 thugs jump out of one or two other cars, and try to run up on the person's vehicle, and smash a window to carjack him or rob him, and his concealed handgun stopped the threat.
My point is, that in all of these situations, racking a slide isn't the sort of thing you have time for when you factor in OODA loops, reaction timies, recognition of the threat, and so forth. You might have enough time to reach your weapon, draw and fire from retention. Typically, you don't even have time or space to fully extend to fire. You draw and fire into the chest or abdomen of the person pressing against you as the try to slam you into something to disorient you.
I train for extreme CQB, and that seems to be the sort of situation I see the most encounters involving for private citizens and CCW use. It's rarely a target at 25 feet or more, giving time to draw, fully extend, get a sight picture, and squeeze off two or three rounds.
XD40scinNC
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Plus a good holster. My carries are all some XD model.
XD40scinNC
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This ^^^ There is no reason to rush re-holstering. Take your time.
I carry XD40sc or XDS and I never grip the gun to reholster. I place my thumb on the back of the slide, which takes my hand off the grip safety, and take my time.
XD40scinNC
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Don't forget NY and having your bullets counted to make sure you only have 7.
There is no distinction in any of the handgun laws in NC between loaded or unloaded, it's just not mentioned in any of the statutes.
Adrenaline dumps are beyond anyone's control, and they occur as part of our body's natural reaction to danger, either fight or flight. Never experienced one as related to guns, but as a firefighter for 31 years, I have experienced them a number of times. All bets are off, and training and muscle memory kick in. Fine motor skills are also out the window, such as the ability to rack a slide far enough to chamber a round, take a safety off.
And if your don't expend that adrenaline through action as the situation immediately changes for the better, you will have a headache from hell.
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