Moving to another state

[Tim S.]

Daughter and Son-in-law will be moving across the river from WV to Ohio, they contacted local Sheriff's in office in Ohio about transferring cw permit, Sheriff tells them they aren't transferable. He then tells them they will have to take the whole class again in Ohio because WV has an 8 hour class and Oh has 10 hour class. I thought cw classes were all the same state for state as long as you had the class you could apply for permit in another state as long as they reciprocated with each other. Trying to find out if he is right or blowing smoke, any info would be appreciated.


TIA, Tim

 

[Throttleup]

Sorry, but I do not know of any state that transfers Concealed Weapons Permits like they do drivers licenses. In South Carolina we honor many other states permits but if you move here, as soon as you become a resident, your out of state permit is no longer valid and you must take a S.C. 8 hour CWP course. That requirement is so you will know South Carolina's laws.

 

[jeffk813]

Tim,

The Sheriff was being accurate. Ohio does honor the WV permit. Unfortunately, since the permit will have incorrect / non-current information on it, it will not be valid and will need to be replaced with an Ohio permit once they move here. Ohio law does require 10 hours of classroom and 2 hours of range time in a course to qualify for a permit. Permits are not transferable form one state to another. In fact, when our CCW licenses expire, we are required to take a "refresher course" of some type, and present a current certificate to our Sheriff to renew. We are currently working to rework that portion of the law though.

 

[Tim S.]

I wasn't questioning the transfer of permit, I was questioning the taking of the nra classes over again. Didn't know each state had different hours of training, thought nra classes were pretty much all the same, I guess in this case Ohio gets you on the number of hours in training.

Thanks again, Tim

 

[RonM0710]

Each state have their own rules/laws pertaining to CCW Permits. When we moved to TN they required I take course over. Now they have relaxed that for military, retired LEO and I believe out of state permit holders. You still have the permit process but they waive the class.

 

[NavyLCDR]

If they were moving from a state that allowed non-resident permits, such as Washington, their permit would remain valid in Ohio so long as the Washington permit was not expired, suspended or revoked because Ohio recognizes the Washington permit. Unfortunately, West Virginia does not allow non-resident permits, so it would seem as if their West Virginia permit will become invalid when they become Ohio residents.

It is interesting to note that Ohio recognizes the Washington license even though Washington has no training requirement at all for our license.

 

[mrjam2jab]

Lawriter - ORC - 2923.125 Application and licensing process.

(3) One or more of the following competency certifications, each of which shall reflect that, regarding a certification described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), (e), or (f) of this section, within the three years immediately preceding the application the applicant has performed that to which the competency certification relates and that, regarding a certification described in division (B)(3)(d) of this section, the applicant currently is an active or reserve member of the armed forces of the United States or within the six years immediately preceding the application the honorable discharge or retirement to which the competency certification relates occurred:

(a) An original or photocopy of a certificate of completion of a firearms safety, training, or requalification or firearms safety instructor course, class, or program that was offered by or under the auspices of the national rifle association and that complies with the requirements set forth in division (G) of this section;

(b) An original or photocopy of a certificate of completion of a firearms safety, training, or requalification or firearms safety instructor course, class, or program that satisfies all of the following criteria:
(i) It was open to members of the general public.
(ii) It utilized qualified instructors who were certified by the national rifle association, the executive director of the Ohio peace officer training commission pursuant to section 109.75 or 109.78 of the Revised Code, or a governmental official or entity of another state.
(iii) It was offered by or under the auspices of a law enforcement agency of this or another state or the United States, a public or private college, university, or other similar postsecondary educational institution located in this or another state, a firearms training school located in this or another state, or another type of public or private entity or organization located in this or another state.
(iv) It complies with the requirements set forth in division (G) of this section.

(c) An original or photocopy of a certificate of completion of a state, county, municipal, or department of natural resources peace officer training school that is approved by the executive director of the Ohio peace officer training commission pursuant to section 109.75 of the Revised Code and that complies with the requirements set forth in division (G) of this section, or the applicant has satisfactorily completed and been issued a certificate of completion of a basic firearms training program, a firearms requalification training program, or another basic training program described in section 109.78 or 109.801 of the Revised Code that complies with the requirements set forth in division (G) of this section;

(d) A document that evidences both of the following:
(i) That the applicant is an active or reserve member of the armed forces of the United States, was honorably discharged from military service in the active or reserve armed forces of the United States, is a retired trooper of the state highway patrol, or is a retired peace officer or federal law enforcement officer described in division (B)(1) of this section or a retired person described in division (B)(1)(b) of section 109.77 of the Revised Code and division (B)(1) of this section;
(ii) That, through participation in the military service or through the former employment described in division (B)(3)(d)(i) of this section, the applicant acquired experience with handling handguns or other firearms, and the experience so acquired was equivalent to training that the applicant could have acquired in a course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), or (c) of this section.

(e) A certificate or another similar document that evidences satisfactory completion of a firearms training, safety, or requalification or firearms safety instructor course, class, or program that is not otherwise described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (d) of this section, that was conducted by an instructor who was certified by an official or entity of the government of this or another state or the United States or by the national rifle association, and that complies with the requirements set forth in division (G) of this section;

(f) An affidavit that attests to the applicant’s satisfactory completion of a course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section and that is subscribed by the applicant’s instructor or an authorized representative of the entity that offered the course, class, or program or under whose auspices the course, class, or program was offered.

and then

(G)(1) Each course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section shall provide to each person who takes the course, class, or program the web site address at which the pamphlet prepared by the Ohio peace officer training commission pursuant to section 109.731 of the Revised Code that reviews firearms, dispute resolution, and use of deadly force matters may be found. Each such course, class, or program described in one of those divisions shall include at least twelve hours of training in the safe handling and use of a firearm that shall include all of the following:

(a) At least ten hours of training on the following matters:
(i) The ability to name, explain, and demonstrate the rules for safe handling of a handgun and proper storage practices for handguns and ammunition;
(ii) The ability to demonstrate and explain how to handle ammunition in a safe manner;
(iii) The ability to demonstrate the knowledge, skills, and attitude necessary to shoot a handgun in a safe manner;
(iv) Gun handling training.

(b) At least two hours of training that consists of range time and live-fire training.

(2) To satisfactorily complete the course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section, the applicant shall pass a competency examination that shall include both of the following:

(a) A written section on the ability to name and explain the rules for the safe handling of a handgun and proper storage practices for handguns and ammunition;
(b) A physical demonstration of competence in the use of a handgun and in the rules for safe handling and storage of a handgun and a physical demonstration of the attitude necessary to shoot a handgun in a safe manner.

(3) The competency certification described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section shall be dated and shall attest that the course, class, or program the applicant successfully completed met the requirements described in division (G)(1) of this section and that the applicant passed the competency examination described in division (G)(2) of this section.

(4) A person who previously has received a competency certification as described in division (B)(3) of this section, or who previously has received a renewed competency certification as described in this division, may obtain a renewed competency certification pursuant to this division. If the person previously has received a competency certification or previously has received a renewed competency certification, the person may obtain a renewed competency certification from an entity that offers a course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section by passing a test that demonstrates that the person is range competent. In these circumstances, the person is not required to attend the course, class, or program or to take the competency examination described in division (G)(2) of this section for the renewed competency certification in order to be eligible to receive a renewed competency certification. A renewed competency certification issued under this division shall be dated and shall attest that the person has demonstrated range competency.