A .22 is not much good for personal protection. Little stopping power. And, you need to stop an attacker or they will keep on coming, don't you know?
True for either people strung out on drugs, or if the attack is personal, but the average thug wanting to mug you at the ATM is going to soil his shorts and turn to run the second he realizes he has been shot, or even shot at.
I have a Ruger R22, and I like it. It is so much more accurate than the LCP, 45's and 9mm's my husband and I have.
i am a big fan of the small frame .38 as a first. lots of ammo choices and not bad stopping power. I am sure any gun range will be more than happy to help with the choice
Have you received any formal firearms training by a professional instructor? That may help. After all, I do not automatically become Mozart by buying a piano and then blame my incoherent "music" on the piano.
Unless you have a medical condition that hinders you from shooting larger calibers, you should have no problem with shooting larger calibers fast and accurate. Unfortunately, most people don't take the time for the needed training and practice.
The Ruger SR-22 shoots .22lr. .22lr is notorious for misfires. I don't recommend the Ruger SR-22 at all as a carry gun for that reason. I do recommend a .22 Magnum revolver as a last resort.
I use my Ruger SR-22 to introduce new shooters to firearms, as they can learn the operation of a firearm and get their first shots down range without worrying about recoil. Once they have learned how to properly hold and operate the pistol, I move on with them to the 9mm Glock 19.
Let's look at another approach, OP.
There's a couple of GREAT 22 MAG pistols.
There's the Kel-Tec PMR 30, the new ones are
pretty dependable. 22WMR is punchy, for it's size,
and the PMR 30 holds 30 rounds. Look at reviews of the
NEW ones, not people still whining about the older models.
Then there's about the best defense you can get, the
FN Five seveN. It's .224, same diameter as .223 caliber,
and factory ammo gives you rifle ballistics. Muzzle velocity
of 2063 FPS, and controllable recoil, 20 round mags,
all from the guys who brought you the original Nato Browning.
What great power do you speak of? The muzzle velocity you use is out of a P90 with a 10.4 in barrel. The FN Five-seven has a 4.8 in barrel where muzzle velocity is somewhere between 1600 and 1700 fps. 5.7x28mm fired out of a pistol is a glorified .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (5.7x28mm "Cop Killer" Cartridge Myth).
OH, ONLY 1600 FPS! Well, I'm so sorry, if it's ONLY 1600 FPS.
My word, that's HORRID performance, you're so right.
Well, DON'T STOP NOW, you're on a roll. Be sure to say something
crappy about the PMR 30, too.
And in "Women in Guns", and the topic "Looking for a first gun" you ignore completely the lighter recoil
of the 22 mag possibilities, as well as any other positive attributes the firearms offer to first time
shooters and buyers.
Not to mention the fact that you're posting all your mean-spirited negativity in the women's forums.
I have to wonder what the mods think of what they are reading here.
PM this guy, pronto, ladies, I'm sure he has a lot of potential...
Now, if you simply can not handle a service-caliber semi-automatic handgun, such as due to a disability, then the .22 Magnum revolver is certainly better.
. . .
PM this guy, pronto, ladies, I'm sure he has a lot of potential...
"such as due to a disability"?
Yeah, you're just a sensitive new-age man.
I offered up two clear options to heavier recoil,
and have a positive message. Both the PMR30 and FN 5.7 are lightweight, and carry
a fair volume of follow up shots, as well as offering a full-size pistol sight radius.
I didn't say you were misogynistic, either. But I'll leave that for the ladies to decide.
If I had to call it, I'd say you're anti-social, with a serious inferiority complex, but
that's really none of my concern, considering the topic at hand..
PMR 30 = 40 gr .22 WMR at 1200 ft/s = 127 ft/lbs of energy.
FN Five-seveN = 40 gr 5.7x28mm at 1655 fps = 243 ft/lbs of energy.
Glock 19 9mm = 124 gr 9mm at 1150 fps = 364 ft/lbs of energy.
AR 15 = 55 gr 5.56x45 at 3098 fps = 1172 ft/lbs of energy.
AR 10 = 147 gr .308 at 2660 fps = 2310 ft/lbs of energy.
Um, women don't come to this forum looking for dates or mates.
Just sayin'.
:lol:
As for low-recoil handguns, most people can handle service caliber handguns after proper training and practice. The view that women are somehow weak and should stick with low-recoil handguns is outright stupid. I know plenty of woman shooters that carry service caliber handguns. I know a few that carry a .22 WMR revolver, most have medical problems, such as arthritis.
As for the FN Five-seveN, the most common complaint is that it is too big. If it is too big, it stays home and is not being carried. If one feels comfortable carrying it, then I have no problem with it. Just don't buy into the myth that this handgun has rifle ballistics. That's all I was saying. If you lose your temper over that, then this is your problem.
As for the PMR 30, I have the same complaint as with the Ruger SR-22. A rimfire round does not belong into a self defensive semi-automatic. There are too many reliability issues associated with that concept. That's why I am recommending a revolver for such cartridge.
Not wanting to get between you guys battling out stuff but as being one of those "women at the range" I wanted to give my perspective.First,of all, sir, maybe you haven't noticed it, but you are RUDE. It wasn't what you said which I found offensive, pertaining to ballistic data, it was the way you said it.
And you're right back into it, "most people can handle service caliber handguns after proper training and practice." Well, I've had some experience with women at the range, and they don't want to "handle service caliber handguns" . In fact, once they determine they have found a handgun which will do, they may never shoot it again, let alone get 'proper training and practice' . Is this the same folks who won't pony up 25$ to join the NRA(no offense) whom you are expecting to spend money paying for training, and going to the range? These women aren't you or I, and shooting, in general, is not a major part of their lives.
Not just women, and not all women, obviously.Second, these are women, seeking alternatives to "service caliber handguns", obviously.
When I was young and healthy, I could handle any kind of handgun, yet I had my preferences. Now, I do have a "serious medical condition" on top of being a lot older. My condition does affect my choice of weapon. That's just a fact of life, not an insult. I physically can't do some things anymore, and it has nothing to do with not being able to "suck it up." I've had to make changes in what I shoot, oh, well.But's that's OK, I'm sure they don't mind if you not so subtly infer that they have some serious medical condition, if they can't suck it up, and take it like a man. I know I sure don't.
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