Inform the officer or not when concealed carry?

[NavyLCDR]

Now your lying.
HERE is what you said.

I am not advocating shooting cops. But shooting criminals in self defense is certainly acceptable... even if that criminal is wearing a badge and a uniform.

A rapist is still a rapist.... it doesn't matter what clothes they are wearing.

You have no problem at all saying it's OK for a cop to think that maybe I am a rapist and might have a dead body in the trunk because he doesn't know me from Adam, yet it is some horrendous unspeakable act to say that that person wearing a badge and uniform just might be a rapist too.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

A rapist is still a rapist.... it doesn't matter what clothes they are wearing.

Ill ask you again....WHAT is it that you are pushing here, pal ?
You saying dont stop for an officer trying to pull you over?
Saying to shoot the cop if you think hes doing something wrong?

You have no problem at all saying it's OK for a cop to think that maybe I am a rapist and might have a dead body in the trunk because he doesn't know me from Adam, yet it is some horrendous unspeakable act to say that that person wearing a badge and uniform just might be a rapist too.

Youre a damned liar.
How about stop putting words into my posts to try to validate your insanity here.

I havent said a damned word as to how to handle a bad cop whose committing a crime against someone he's pulled over.
The ONLY thing *I* have done is to keep you talking so you can show the readers here just how insane you actually are.

one thing is very clear. Youve spent FAR too much time thinking about 'bad cops' and how you intend to deal with them.

 

[antietam]

Sometimes a synopsis makes things [and people] clearer.
At first I intended to articulate Rugar357SP101 's problem, but it's not necessary. The obvious speaks for itself. Actually, I'm willing to help him with professional references after glancing at his pattern of words and responses to follow:

Rugar357SP101
• What a sick, twisted delusional world you live in.
• Its your type of extremist whackjob that make the...
• Just as I thought. Youre a paranoid delusional.
• Is this pathetic crap all you folks can come up with?
• That you dont see relevance only exposes your utter ignorance.
• When you actually present any valid points you let me know.
• So now youre a psychoanalyst too :wacko:
• And I certainly wont put you on ignore because I enjoy exposing your idiocy and hypocrisy for all the readers here to see.
• No need to apologize, friend, I have ZERO respect for you, your type or your thoughts and opinions....so nothing you have to say affects me in the least.
• Youre a liar.
• These damned Rambos are making the whole lot of us look like nuts who only follow the rules we think we can get away with and to hell with the ones we dont want to follow.
• Yeah..lets let the... just another example of a backwoods redneck who apparently doesnt know how to read...or has serious comprehension issues.
• Why dont you try READING sometime....a mind is a terrrible thing to waste.
• Im sorry but this outlandish line is simply bull ****.
• That is backwater hick tough guy Rambo BS...nothing more.
• No, it appears YOU dont comprehend the reason FOR a search.
• Somehow I think the word 'troll' in your username is fitting...
• A couple obnoxious members here, however, cant accept that it is MY business, not theres, to inform as *I* feel to do so.
• Had these obnoxious types kept their...

 

[Ruger357SP101]

Sometimes a synopsis makes things [and people] clearer.
At first I intended to articulate Rugar357SP101 's problem, but it's not necessary. The obvious speaks for itself. Actually, I'm willing to help him with professional references after glancing at his pattern of words and responses to follow:

As I said...anything to distract from the issue at hand because the facts, common sense and the law are against you and your ilk.

How about you, cowboy....you advocating using your gun against a cop too like NavyLT seems to be?

NavyLT:
"I am not advocating shooting cops. But shooting criminals in self defense is certainly acceptable... even if that criminal is wearing a badge and a uniform.

 

[NavyLCDR]

As I said...anything to distract from the issue at hand because the facts, common sense and the law are against you and your ilk.

How about you, cowboy....you advocating using your gun against a cop too like NavyLT seems to be?

What is sick is that you don't consider this guy to be a criminal:
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Just a cop. If the woman had the means to shoot him, should she have?

After all, he was wearing a uniform and a badge before he took them off to rape the woman.

Even police departments advise being cautious:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_16705489

Police advised drivers concerned about whether a traffic stop is legitimate to roll down their window part of the way and ask to see the officer's badge.They also can call police dispatchers to verify whether the stop is legitimate.

How paranoid, eh? I wonder if you should tell the "cop" that you have a gun before or after you call dispatchers?

 

[antietam]

What a hoot! Ok, I'll respond in brief and exactly to your point regarding NavyLT's quote:
"I am not advocating shooting cops. But shooting criminals in self defense is certainly acceptable... even if that criminal is wearing a badge and a uniform.

NavyLT's point was "criminals," and correctly included cops, if they in fact act as criminals and NavyLT is on the receiving end of that crime which threaten's his life. Hundreds (conservatively-speaking) of LEOs are prosecuted for felonies every year. It is completely reasonable for a legal gun carrying citizen to be knowledgeable and cautious with all judicial encounters, including LEOs. I've read enough of NavyLT's posts to know that he's rational and would not arbitrarily agress against an LEO in a self defense mode unless the LEO was, in fact, clearly rogue and acted criminally. At least that's how I interpret NavyLT - he can speak for himself and correct me if he wishes.

 

[antietam]

As I said...anything to distract from the issue at hand because the facts, common sense and the law are against you and your ilk.

How about you, cowboy....you advocating using your gun against a cop too like NavyLT seems to be?

What a hoot! Ok, I'll respond in brief and exactly to your point regarding NavyLT's quote:
"I am not advocating shooting cops. But shooting criminals in self defense is certainly acceptable... even if that criminal is wearing a badge and a uniform.

NavyLT's point was "criminals," and correctly included cops, if they in fact act as criminals and NavyLT is on the receiving end of that crime which threaten's his life. Hundreds (conservatively-speaking) of LEOs are prosecuted for felonies every year. It is completely reasonable for a legal gun carrying citizen to be knowledgeable and cautious with all judicial encounters, including LEOs. I've read enough of NavyLT's posts to know that he's rational and would not arbitrarily agress against an LEO in a self defense mode unless the LEO was, in fact, clearly rogue and acted criminally. At least that's how I interpret NavyLT - he can speak for himself and correct me if he wishes.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

What a hoot! Ok, I'll respond in brief and exactly to your point regarding NavyLT's quote:
"I am not advocating shooting cops. But shooting criminals in self defense is certainly acceptable... even if that criminal is wearing a badge and a uniform.

NavyLT's point was "criminals," and correctly included cops, if they in fact act as criminals and NavyLT is on the receiving end of that crime which threaten's his life. Hundreds (conservatively-speaking) of LEOs are prosecuted for felonies every year. It is completely reasonable for a legal gun carrying citizen to be knowledgeable and cautious with all judicial encounters, including LEOs. I've read enough of NavyLT's posts to know that he's rational and would not arbitrarily agress against an LEO in a self defense mode unless the LEO was, in fact, clearly rogue and acted criminally. At least that's how I interpret NavyLT - he can speak for himself and correct me if he wishes.

It was easy enough to see what his point was, pal....we dont need another nut trying to clear it up for us.

He has clearly put a lot of thought into what his actions might be with a 'bad cop'.
No, it is NOT reasonable for any law abiding citizen to be sitting around planning being attacked by a LEO and what they will do.

Hell, I dont even go that far worrying about REAL felons.
A couple of you here are over the top extremist nutcases.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

What is sick is that you don't consider this guy to be a criminal:
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Again with your damned LIES!
WHERE have *I* SAID that a cop who commits crimes isnt a criminal, liar?

Thing is that without your BS and fabrications we both know you dont have a leg to stand on here in your insane scheming as to how you are going to deal with 'bad cops'.
One almost get the impression that you are just waiting for the opportunity to come your way.

 

[NavyLCDR]

What a hoot! Ok, I'll respond in brief and exactly to your point regarding NavyLT's quote:
"I am not advocating shooting cops. But shooting criminals in self defense is certainly acceptable... even if that criminal is wearing a badge and a uniform.

NavyLT's point was "criminals," and correctly included cops, if they in fact act as criminals and NavyLT is on the receiving end of that crime which threaten's his life. Hundreds (conservatively-speaking) of LEOs are prosecuted for felonies every year. It is completely reasonable for a legal gun carrying citizen to be knowledgeable and cautious with all judicial encounters, including LEOs. I've read enough of NavyLT's posts to know that he's rational and would not arbitrarily agress against an LEO in a self defense mode unless the LEO was, in fact, clearly rogue and acted criminally. At least that's how I interpret NavyLT - he can speak for himself and correct me if he wishes.

No correction needed, you are exactly correct.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Again with your damned LIES!
WHERE have *I* SAID that a cop who commits crimes isnt a criminal, liar?

Thing is that without your BS and fabrications we both know you dont have a leg to stand on here in your insane scheming as to how you are going to deal with 'bad cops'.
One almost get the impression that you are just waiting for the opportunity to come your way.

Funny how you didn't answer this question:

If the woman had the means to shoot him, should she have?

After all, he was wearing a uniform and a badge before he took them off to rape the woman.

 

[NavyLCDR]

He has clearly put a lot of thought into what his actions might be with a 'bad cop'.
No, it is NOT reasonable for any law abiding citizen to be sitting around planning being attacked by a LEO and what they will do.

No, I have put thought into what my actions might be with a criminal.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

Funny how you didn't answer this question:

Your questions are little more than your mentally unbalanced way of vainly trying to justify your insane rantings on this forum.

 

[antietam]

NavyLT, man, this Ruger357SP101 guy is a hoot and entertaining! I think we keep feeding something to him that is clinically damaging.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

No, I have put thought into what my actions might be with a criminal.

Youve made it VERY clear, friend, precisely what you sit at home planning.

Very odd that I have never run across a single CCW'er in all these years who literally sits around PLANNING for crossing a 'bad cop'. Yet you seem to be consumed with it.
This is typically how the shooters get their start...obsession.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

NavyLT, man, this Ruger357SP101 guy is a hoot and entertaining! I think we keep feeding something to him that is clinically damaging.

Whats entertaining is when I cross forums like this one and see a vocal group of a few nutcases who seem to think they run the joint and attack the majority of level headed, SANE members of that forum.
The difference between the other SANE members of society who own guns and myself is that I wont take crap from you and your sort, and I'll say to you precisely what needs to be said.
You dont frighten anyone and you certainly arent impressing the straights here with your toughguy bull ****.

 

[Ruger357SP101]

What I find interesting here on this forum is that its pretty typical of most gun forums.
A long list of good, law abiding, common sense gun packers....and a very small group of extremist nutcases plotting their revenge on law enforcement who might just happen to piss them off during a traffic stop.

Oddly enough these are the same nuts who, while they whine about THEIR rights not being infringed upon, are completely willing to disregard the rights of others as they see fit.

This isnt about rights with this type, and it certainly isnt about self defense.
Its about their paranoid Rambo rhetoric where they are the 'freedom fighters' trying to save the USA from phantoms and ghosts.

These are the mutants who make the REST of us look bad.
They are the ones who give the BradyNuts ammunition to use against us when they talk about using their guns against our LEOs.
Im half expecting them to say they think they should be allowed to hunt squirrels with a machine gun because its their 'constitutional right'.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Funny how you didn't answer this question:
If the woman had the means to shoot him, should she have?

After all, he was wearing a uniform and a badge before he took them off to rape the woman.

Your questions are little more than your mentally unbalanced way of vainly trying to justify your insane rantings on this forum.

^^^^^ Translated that means, "Well, crap, I can't say she should shoot, because then I would be saying she should shoot a police officer. I can't say she should not shoot, because then everybody will jump on me for saying she should not defend herself against rape. Damn it. What can I do..... I know, I'll post some for nonsensical drivel and maybe nobody will notice what a quandary I've gotten myself into...."

 

[Ruger357SP101]

^^^^^ Translated that means, "Well, crap, I can't say she should shoot, because then I would be saying she should shoot a police officer. I can't say she should not shoot, because then everybody will jump on me for saying she should not defend herself against rape. Damn it. What can I do..... I know, I'll post some for nonsensical drivel and maybe nobody will notice what a quandary I've gotten myself into...."

Your questions are little more than your mentally unbalanced way of vainly trying to justify your insane rantings on this forum.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Your questions are little more than your mentally unbalanced way of vainly trying to justify your insane rantings on this forum.

Translated again that means, "Yep. I got nothing."