You are going to barter.sell ammo that might be used against you?
Always an interesting question and I like to see the responses...I believe in at the very least 1000 rounds per weapon. But that's just me. I know of a friend of a friend that purchased 100K rounds of .556 a month or so ago. I can't do that. I also know of people that think anything more than a couple of boxes of bullets you are border line crazy. I purchase what I can afford and store safely and only a few know just how much. I have bought more than most possibly but I HAVE never sold anything I have purchased. I am not a hoarder or profiteer. I'm just not going to run out. I saw it in 2007/2008 when Bummer was running for office, ammo was scarce and again in 2012/2013 with Sandy hook. Yeh, we have ammo now but prices really aren't the best. Just remember....2016 will be here before you know it. No telling what is going to happen if the ugly ***** runs. Just be prepared fella's is all I can say.
Got a dumb question. Are we talking defensive ammo or practice ammo. I have about 1000 rnds of range ammo, but only about 50 (I need to get more) of defensive ammo.
I have started to see some renewed interest in this topic. Since the price is about as low as it is likely to go, how much should we stock up?
Some thoughts are:
1. How much to make it through the next shortage?
2. How much, and of what kind, to make it through a firefight? firefights?
3. How much, just because the price is good and it's a good investment.
That sounds reasonable and thoughtful though I would change the order. Number 3, firearms and ammo goes to the front. Like the 2a it protects the others.
As far as ammo.... If I owned any guns I would think minimum would be 3,000 rounds for each caliber especially in a SHTF scenario. You can replace box by box what you shoot at the range.
For everyday self defense carry ammo, that depends how much you practice with it. Remember in a SHTF situation range ammo is self defense ammo and less costly considering the thousands you want on hand.
Always an interesting question and I like to see the responses...I believe in at the very least 1000 rounds per weapon. But that's just me. I know of a friend of a friend that purchased 100K rounds of .556 a month or so ago. I can't do that. I also know of people that think anything more than a couple of boxes of bullets you are border line crazy. I purchase what I can afford and store safely and only a few know just how much. I have bought more than most possibly but I HAVE never sold anything I have purchased. I am not a hoarder or profiteer. I'm just not going to run out. I saw it in 2007/2008 when Bummer was running for office, ammo was scarce and again in 2012/2013 with Sandy hook. Yeh, we have ammo now but prices really aren't the best. Just remember....2016 will be here before you know it. No telling what is going to happen if the ugly ***** runs. Just be prepared fella's is all I can say.
Lol, I thought I should been more descriptive. I have a lot of neighbors I'm friends with who are gun owners but haven't given any thought about prepping. I would supply them with what they need.
Yes, a little of both, although I wouldn't call a breakdown in civil society "Amageddon." More along the lines of what Venezuala is going through right now.IM guessing the question posed has to do with one of two things... either the shortage of ammo, or some sort of inevitable Armageddon..
You shoot 50 a week of your defense load, not an equivalent practice load?I shoot 50 round a week of my personal defense weapon and carry load, just to keep my edge..
Are you saying you are still experiencing supply problems where you are?as far as the shortage goes, you can benchmark many ammo suppliers and check weekly as they all get lots of specific ammo in ,, and it doesn't stay in stock for long... many places only offer a limited order quantity...thing are getting better... slow but sure.. most ammo manufacturers are going 24/7
I wouldn't call a breakdown in civil society "Armageddon."
I hope by that you mean 1000 rounds per type and not just 1000 rounds total.Buy and shoot a good deal, but 1,000 rounds on stock for my standard weapons, including shot gun in various loads.
I'm fortunate in that even in the southernmost part of Florida, I don't live in a city. So that leaves two options depending on what the crisis is. Staying and hunkering down or bugging out. Food, there is a couple weeks worth at minimum. Water, only 4' down and on a well so not a problem. Electricity, generator with gas. Resistance to a riot, storm panels and inside lockable shutters. Most people couldn't fit thru the lower floor windows anyways and they are 7' up. Porches on second floor for returning fire from and a roof exit hatch for even more options. House itself is all reinforced concrete block and poured concrete. So staying would be an option.Here is the whole deal with all of this "How much ammo" stuff. First off let me say I keep plenty, and I'm not saying anyone else should not to do the same. But from a more practical standpoint, let's say this whole "Armageddon" thing were to play out the way people like to talk about it on forums like this one. Complete monetary collapse, power grid failure, food shortages, the whole nine yards. Now what? How the hell are you going to move all of this ammo, and just where the hell are you supposed to move it to? In all of this "survivalist talk" people right away mention "bug out bags". Having everything you require self contained, along with full tanks of fuel in your vehicles, all so you can grab it and run in a moments notice when "Armageddon" happens, and haul ass out of the city.
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That means leaving the bulk of your ammo bunker for someone else to claim when your city dwelling gets overrun. And if you play out this "Armageddon" fantasy, everyone concurs that the city is the worst place to be, yet it's where most of us live. Because there aren't many places to earn a living on top of a 8,000 ft. mountain, in the middle of nowhere. Now, let's say you've got a remote cabin. Are you going to keep thousands of dollars worth of ammunition there where it can easily be burglarized by a couple of kids on ATV's when you're not there? My point is having ammo for the sole purpose of having ammo is fine. But in all reality, if society were in fact to completely melt down, it really isn't going to do you much good. In fact it would be a hindrance instead of an asset. And forget all of this, "trading bullets for silver and beans" nonsense. If things got that bad, no one is going to "trade" with you for anything. They'll simply kill you for it.
Here is the whole deal with all of this "How much ammo" stuff. First off let me say I keep plenty, and I'm not saying anyone else should not to do the same. But from a more practical standpoint, let's say this whole "Armageddon" thing were to play out the way people like to talk about it on forums like this one. Complete monetary collapse, power grid failure, food shortages, the whole nine yards. Now what? How the hell are you going to move all of this ammo, and just where the hell are you supposed to move it to? In all of this "survivalist talk" people right away mention "bug out bags". Having everything you require self contained, along with full tanks of fuel in your vehicles, all so you can grab it and run in a moments notice when "Armageddon" happens, and haul ass out of the city.
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That means leaving the bulk of your ammo bunker for someone else to claim when your city dwelling gets overrun. And if you play out this "Armageddon" fantasy, everyone concurs that the city is the worst place to be, yet it's where most of us live. Because there aren't many places to earn a living on top of a 8,000 ft. mountain, in the middle of nowhere. Now, let's say you've got a remote cabin. Are you going to keep thousands of dollars worth of ammunition there where it can easily be burglarized by a couple of kids on ATV's when you're not there? My point is having ammo for the sole purpose of having ammo is fine. But in all reality, if society were in fact to completely melt down, it really isn't going to do you much good. In fact it would be a hindrance instead of an asset. And forget all of this, "trading bullets for silver and beans" nonsense. If things got that bad, no one is going to "trade" with you for anything. They'll simply kill you for it.
I can concur with all of those sentiments (especially praying to God that I never will have to use my weapons on another human), except that I see a day coming when the danger will be much greater than it is today.As someone that doesn't spend a lot of time and money at the range, like some, I keep some boxes FMJ round nose for target practice and 1 box of Hollow points for protection/carry purpose. I also have a rifle and a couple of shotguns. I have hunting ammo for them. I personally see no reason to have 100's of rounds of hollow points around the house when I hope I never need any at all. I carry all day everyday and have for years. I never have had to use my 9MM, on another human, and God willing, pray I never will. But, if needed I surely will.
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