when the antis ask why do you need a gun in church, what will you say? when they ask why do you need a gun in your car, what will you say, when the antis ask why do you need a gun in your home what will you say?
I would say the church allows me to carry a firearm and so I do. It is lawful for me to carry a firearm in my car. It is lawful for me to have a firearm in my home. What do you say when the Court doesn't allow you to carry a gun in the Courthouse...hmmmmm?
If I chose to, I could tell all of my friends that they were not welcome on my property armed, or that they cannot speak in my home unless they speak in pirate-ese.
If you fly the "Jolly Roger" the home owners association is gonna be mad. No flags remember? :nono: :sarcastic:I am so going to make pirate-ese required on my property! An eye patch will also be a must. One will be provided if you do not bring your own. Parrots, however, will be banned, unless it's a service parrot, of course.
I am so going to make pirate-ese required on my property! An eye patch will also be a must. One will be provided if you do not bring your own. Parrots, however, will be banned, unless it's a service parrot, of course.
If you fly the "Jolly Roger" the home owners association is gonna be mad. No flags remember? :nono: :sarcastic:
It's not that your gun is not welcome at a gun show... that would be most ridiculous, after all it is a GUN show. What they don't want is a loaded gun.
The bad press is enough to discourage it.
I just typed in "gun goes off at gun show" in google and this is what came up:
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If I were running a gun show and knew idiots like this would be coming in, I'd make them unload at the front door too. If they don't like, they can save their $10 and go elsewhere.
I always hear, well a gun never went off by itself. I agree, it takes a stupid person or more than one for it to go off at a gun show.
I've been to several gun shows in Missouri. There is no state statute that prohibits carrying a concealed firearm by a licensed individual in any gun show. I have seen police officers in uniform standing in the entry way, but they are likely off duty, and only keeping the peace. There isn't, in the state of Missouri, a law allowing them to search gun show patrons for concealed firearms. A gun show patron wishing to sell a firearm, must check the gun at the door where it is inspected for ammunition, and then tie strapped to prevent use. I know of no other state besides Missouri that imposes no legal liability on ignoring a posted "no guns" sign so even if the venue was posted, the most that could happen is being asked to leave if one accidentally "prints".
Only law enforcement may carry loaded according to our insurance and for safety sake in case anyone is trying holsters and accessories. You may carry unloaded and the gun will be strapped inoperable with a nylon tie. Thanks
Tracie
I appreciate your response, but I will not be coming back to a gun show as long as this policy remains in place - and neither will many of my friends and associates. I hold a CPL, meaning that I have been background checked, I'm not under treatment for mental health issues, have no domestic violence charges in my past, or anything else that would flag me as a potential threat. I am also a former law enforcement officer, although because of injuries sustained in the line of duty I did not have enough time in service to qualify under LEOSA. Lastly, I sell firearms myself for a national company; I handle firearms safely every day.
Yes, I understand that you have law enforcement present during gun shows. I am also keenly aware that more than 10 state, federal, and SCOTUS decisions make it crystal clear that law enforcement are under no obligation to actually DO anything should a shooting event occur unless they CHOOSE to respond. The SCOTUS case, City of Castle Rock v. Gonzales, states this doctrine clearly:
"You, and only you, are responsible for your security and the security of your family and loved ones. That was the essence of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in the early 1980's when they ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you as an individual, but to protect society as a whole. It is a well-settled fact of American law that the police have no legal duty to protect any individual citizen from crime, even if the citizen has received death threats and the police have negligently failed to provide protection"
I have enjoyed attending gun shows in the past, but as long as this policy exists, I and many of my friends and associates will not be back.
Sincerely,
I am so going to make pirate-ese required on my property! An eye patch will also be a must. One will be provided if you do not bring your own. Parrots, however, will be banned, unless it's a service parrot, of course.
Seventy one responses to a question whose answer is "take your money somewhere else".
So at the range, when the RO calls a cease fire do you unload your gun or tell them that your rights will not be infringed?
Try this one on for size...You have a right to speak freely "Freedom of Speech"...except you do not have the right to yell fire in a crowded theater. You do not have the right to incite to riot with your speech. With rights come some common sense responsibilities so it seems that the reason we cannot carry a loaded firearm into a gun show is perhaps someone long ago did not exercise some common sense and someone was harmed. Your right to swing your fist stops at my nose. I am all for the right to bear arms but ya gotta ask yourself why you would want to be in a theater and have some one yell "Fire!" That person is now infringing on my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. All of our rights described in the Constitution are pre-existing rights, however you can forfeit rights...your right to life for example. Timothy McVeigh found out as have so many others that the right to life has limits.