Using lethal force for what was described as a non-lethal mugging may not go well for you from a legal perspective. That scenario as described would probaly not justify lethal force in most states. I can see where the situation as described could go in a more lethal direction, which would make my first choice the pepper spray, and then a gun if the situation worsened and warranted such. It is difficult because being on a bike puts the individual in a complex reactive position that can make any type of defensive move more difficult.
That scenario as described would not justify lethal force?????
That scenario as described would not justify lethal force????? What universe are you from? 2 against 1 would be grounds for use of lethal force in all 50 states...... So would being "jumped" and knocked off your bike in a robbery....
A fanny pack is not a purse with a long dangling strap that can easily be cut and carried off.
The only way someone could cut off my fanny pack without cutting my flesh as well...
Besides, how did they get that close to me without my taking action? If its that blind a corner they could conceivable pull me off of my bike, but while they are doing that I can disable them.
this type of attack can be overcome.
What defensive moves work best from a bicycle? Can they remove you with one hand or will they need both? How does that affect your options? Just thinking through the situations will give us a big advantage when and if the time ever comes for real.
The only thing I had available was that bicycle, and I used it to beat the living **** out of that dog. Bet he didn't see that coming! If a bicycle is available to you, then you use it! If you need more, escalate!
You need to make the other guy fear you more than you fear him. Luck favors the person who is prepared ahead of time.
This comes not just from having a weapon, but from knowing how to fight, body mechanics, vital targets, & combat psychology. As was pointed out-a bicycle can be an effective weapon.
I carry a S&W 637 5-shot .38 cal with a CT LaserGrip in a fanny pack or in the side zip-pocket of my camelback. In the camelback I secure it in a nylon holster with velcro retention strap. I always carried it to scare off the occasional bear or coyote but the OP makes me think. My wife also carries one when she rides alone.What abou a fanny pack holster?
I suggest we could set up a training scenario with like-minded others and play this out. That would give us some answers. How hard is it to rip a fanny pack from someone?(on the back, front, either side?) What defensive moves work best from a bicycle? Can they remove you with one hand or will they need both? How does that affect your options? Just thinking through the situations will give us a big advantage when and if the time ever comes for real.
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