I appreciate your view and tend to agree...concealed takes away a lot of potential issues..thanks!
By that logic the best defense is to never leave the house.The best defense is for the criminal to have a reason to never attack you to begin with.
Good luck, Mr. Paranoid.
Why do you think you need any more publicly displayed criminal deterrent than the average citizen?
You pull your weapon ... surprise, vs bad guys know you have one before starting their criminal act
Let me present some food for thought...By that logic the best defense is to never leave the house.Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
The best defense is for the criminal to have a reason to never attack you to begin with.
But then again, you have the home invaders and burglars, etc. to deal with. Get a sign for your front porch "Guarded by Glock?"
Move to the wilderness and become a hermit. Then the FBI will seek you out to punish your potentially disloyal inner thoughts.
Good luck, Mr. Paranoid.
Good luck, Mr. Paranoid.
Those concerns about open carry are often mentioned yet if such things actually happened very often or with any regularity it should be easy to find examples of incidents with a simple 'net search since many folks have been open carrying for decades in just Arizona. But such is not the case since finding such incidents (actual and factual incidents... not a "My uncle told me once that he heard from some guy at work that he heard from his cousin...) is very rare.Open carry might be a deterrent to an attack, I buy that. Could it also attract an attack if someone wanted another gun? Or serve as a shoot me first sign on your body?
Or consider that there has been so much concealed carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself, even rarer than open carry, would point to no deterrent factor whatsoever for open carry.Please consider that there has been so much open carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself would point to the deterrent factor of open carry... actually deterring.
Wow... twisted logic there ....Or consider that there has been so much concealed carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself, even rarer than open carry, would point to no deterrent factor whatsoever for open carry.Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Please consider that there has been so much open carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself would point to the deterrent factor of open carry... actually deterring.
Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Please consider that there has been so much open carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself would point to the deterrent factor of open carry... actually deterring.
Suggests to me that you have data available wherein you can make that comparison. Please provide cites and/or links to that data.Or consider that there has been so much concealed carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself, even rarer than open carry, -snip-
You were first out the gate with this line of reasoning, so by all means, YOU FIRST!Please provide cites and/or links to that data.
And then you made this statement:Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Please consider that there has been so much open carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself would point to the deterrent factor of open carry... actually deterring.
Or consider that there has been so much concealed carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself, even rarer than open carry, -snip-
I didn't say anything about comparing concealed carry incidents with open carry incidents. YOU did... so feel free to....You were first out the gate with this line of reasoning, so by all means, YOU FIRST!
Now about the line of reasoning expressed in this post:You were first out the gate with this line of reasoning, so by all means, YOU FIRST!
Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
Please consider that there has been so much open carry done by so many people for so many decades with "being shot first" or having their "gun taken away" incidents being so extremely rare the rarity of those incidents itself would point to the deterrent factor of open carry... actually deterring.
Nor does it matter if open carry has any deterrent or not, since neither can be proven or even marginally supported by any available facts.It doesn't matter if concealed carry has any deterrent effect or not...
Which neither you nor I ever did or ever could....the arguer should not be granted the assumption that open carry deters, but should be made to provide support for that claim.
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