So, the laws suck because BGs get to rob banks and we don't? OR, if the good guys don't follow the rules, why should we? Having a little trouble with the logic here. Nobody said OP couldn't carry a gun, he just didn't obey the law and carry his permit/license. I have my TN DL and HCP in a small leather bifold along with my two medical cards (Retired Military ID and Medicare card) in short essential ID. I even carry the case in my house. If I am not in my PJs or skivvies, I have all important ID on me.
Well you would be wrong.
There are also several Supreme Court rulings, including the recent rulings on Heller (or McDonald, I can't remember which), affirming the local right to regulate just about everything Except ownership in the home and the right of self defense. As much as we all want to see the laws enforced and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, we can only do that through local, state, county, city, laws. Granted, there are a lot of gun laws on the books that we all want to go away, but we're still regulated by local laws.
Well you would be wrong.
There are also several Supreme Court rulings, including the recent rulings on Heller (or McDonald, I can't remember which), affirming the local right to regulate just about everything Except ownership in the home and the right of self defense. As much as we all want to see the laws enforced and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, we can only do that through local, state, county, city, laws. Granted, there are a lot of gun laws on the books that we all want to go away, but we're still regulated by local laws.
BuddhaKat:230374 said:You have a right to carry a gun. You have a privilege to carry it concealed. Just because the 2nd Amendment gives you the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn't mean that state and local governments don't have a right to add restrictions.I do not consider my right to carry a privilege. The second amendment guarantees it as a right. Having said that, I do always carry the paper the state of Indiana issued to me that says it's OK with them that I carry.
Additionally, I don't think that the right to own a gun necessarily means there shouldn't be some restrictions attached. For example, while I don't support mandatory registration of every gun, I don't know how to reconcile that with proactively preventing people who aren't supposed to have one from getting one. Maybe rather than something on a drivers license saying we have a CCW, maybe we should put something on it that flags the person as being a convicted felon. A law abiding citizen should have their right to privacy respected, but a convicted felon shouldn't necessarily be entitled to that right, at least as far as possessing a weapon is concerned.
You might want to weigh in here: http://www.usacarry.com/forums/fire...ld-convicted-felon-allowed-carry-firearm.htmlDo you think a prisoner convicted of shooting someone in a robbery should be able to keep and bear arms when he gets out of jail? His right shall not be infringed after all.
That excludes many on this forum....law abiding people
Or you can be fined $25 if the officer asks if you are carrying and you don't have it with you. You also are wrong on the DL requirement. It is required that you have valid ID. FL also says that you don't have to tell unless you are asked by the LEO. So how does the LEO find out? Did he see it or did he ask or did you tell? Fl DL is not tied to your CWorFL.In FL you are also required to have your CWP and driver's license if your carrying!
Ohio is a different story as you have to tell from the start.The licensee must carry the license, together with valid identification, at all times in which the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon or firearm and must display both the license and proper identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer. Violations of the provisions of this subsection shall constitute a noncriminal violation with a penalty of $25, payable to the clerk of the court.
I think we're still on topic, just discussing some of the details. For instance, I don't remember saying gun ownership should be a restricted right, I merely pointed out that it IS a restricted right in accordance with the authority granted to the states. The Supreme's just said that. Granted, this fight is not over and they only ruled part way on what should have been the obvious issue, but they answer to no one, so what're ya gonna do?I think we veered off topic slightly here, BK. It seemed to me that you made a blanket statement that gun ownership should be a restricted right. That's where I took issue with you. And regardless of what the states ARE doing, they have no authority to do so to the law-abiding citizen. That is the point i was making. I have no issues with felons being denied the right until their parole/probation is up. But once our laws deem a person suitable to be released into society again, we should restore all rights to him. If we are not ready to do that, then I suggest he is not yet fit for society. Read my earlier posts in this thread. Our justice system is broken. We cry out for safer streets, and at the same time others cry out for more rehabilitation and less punishment. But those people are what i like to call, "wrong."
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