So you hold no animosity or grudges against anyone, despite what evil they may have rendered or their past history? Wow if you were a Catholic I would elect you for sainthood....:biggrin:
The title of this thread should have been "More Xenophobic Bigotry."
So you hold no animosity or grudges against anyone, despite what evil they may have rendered or their past history? Wow if you were a Catholic I would elect you for sainthood....:biggrin:
Ummm.... animosity towards Christians and Christianity for sure.
Why don't you guys ever get tired of the same view all the time?
You know: the one from inside your own anus?
thanks glockster for the post!Below are selected excerpts from Brigitte Gabriel's speech delivered at the Intelligence Summit in Washington DC
We gather here today to share information and knowledge. Intelligence is not merely cold hard data about numerical strength or armament or disposition of military forces. The most important element of intelligence has to be understanding the mindset and intention of the enemy. The West has been wallowing in a state of ignorance and denial for thirty years as Muslim extremist perpetrated evil against innocent victims in the name of Allah.
I was ten years old when my home exploded around me, burying me under the rubble and leaving me to drink my blood to survive, as the perpetrators shouted, 'Allah Akbar!' My only crime was that I was a Christian living in a Christian town. At 10 years old, I learned the meaning of the word 'infidel.'
I had a crash course in survival. Not in the Girl Scouts, but in a bomb shelter where I lived for seven years in pitch darkness, freezing cold, drinking stale water and eating grass to live. At the age of 13, dressed in my burial clothes going to bed at night, waiting to be slaughtered. By the age of 20, I had buried most of my friends--killed by Muslims. We were not Americans living in New York , or Britons in London . We were Arab Christians living in Lebanon .
As a victim of Islamic terror, I was amazed when I saw Americans waking up on September 12, 2001, and asking themselves 'Why do they hate us?' The psychoanalyst experts were coming up with all sort of excuses as to what did we do to offend the Muslim World. But if America and the West were paying attention to the Middle East they would not have had to ask the question. Simply put, they hate us because we are defined in their eyes by one simple word: 'infidels.'
Under the banner of Islam 'la, ilaha illa Allah, muhammad rasoulu Allah,' (None is god except Allah; Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah) they murdered Jewish children in Israel, massacred Christians in Lebanon, killed Copts in Egypt, Assyrians in Syria, Hindus in India, and expelled almost 900,000 Jews from Muslim lands. We Middle Eastern infidels paid the price then. Now infidels worldwide are paying the price for indifference and shortsightedness.
Tolerating evil is a crime. Appeasing murderers doesn't buy protection. It earns one disrespect and loathing in the enemy's eyes. Yet apathy is the weapon by which the West is committing suicide. Political correctness forms the shackles around our ankles, by which Islamist's are leading us to our demise.
America and the West are doomed to failure in this war unless they stand up and identify the real enemy: Islam. You hear about Cahaba and Salafi Islam as the only extreme form of Islam. All the other Muslims, supposedly, are wonderful moderates. Closer to the truth are the pictures of the irrational eruption of violence in reaction to the cartoons of Mohammed printed by a Danish newspaper. From burning embassies, to calls to butcher those who mock Islam, to warnings that the West be prepared for another holocaust, those pictures have given us a glimpse into the real face of the enemy.
News pictures and video of these events represent a canvas of hate decorated by different nationalities who share one common ideology of hate, bigotry and intolerance derived from one source: authentic Islam. An Islam that is awakening from centuries of slumber to re-ignite its wrath against the infidel and dominate the world. An Islam which has declared 'Intifada' on the West.
America and the West can no longer afford to lay in their lazy state of overweight ignorance. The consequences of this mental disease are starting to attack the body, and if they don't take the necessary steps now to control it, death will be knocking soon. If you want to understand the nature of the enemy we face, visualize a tapestry of snakes. They slither and they hiss, and they would eat each other alive, but they will unite in a hideous mass to achieve their common goal of imposing Islam on the world.
This is the ugly face of the enemy we are fighting. We are fighting a powerful ideology that is capable of altering basic human instincts. An ideology that can turn a mother into a launching pad of death. A perfect example is a recently elected Hamas official in the Palestinian territories who raves in heavenly joy about sending her three sons to death and offering the ones who are still alive for the cause. It is an ideology that is capable of offering highly educated individuals such as doctors and lawyers far more joy in attaining death than any respect and stature life in society is ever capable of giving them.
The United States has been a prime target for radical Islamic hatred and terror. Every Friday, mosques in the Middle East ring with shrill prayers and monotonous chants calling death, destruction and damnation down on America and its people. The radical Islamist deeds have been as vile as their words. Since the Iran hostage crisis, more than three thousand Americans have died in a terror campaign almost unprecedented in its calculated cruelty along with thousands of other citizens worldwide. Even the Nazis did not turn their own children into human bombs, and then rejoice at their deaths as well the deaths of their victims. This intentional, indiscriminate and wholesale murder of innocent American citizens is justified and glorified in the name of Islam.
America cannot effectively defend itself in this war unless and until the American people understand the nature of the enemy that we face. Even after 9/11 there are those who say that we must engage our terrorist enemies, that we must address their grievances.
Their grievance is our freedom of religion. Their grievance is our freedom of speech. Their grievance is our democratic process where the rule of law comes from the voices of many not that of just one prophet. It is the respect we instill in our children towards all religions. It is the equality we grant each other as human beings sharing a planet and striving to make the world a better place for all humanity. Their grievance is the kindness and respect a man shows a woman, the justice we practice as equals under the law, and the mercy we grant our enemy. Their grievance cannot be answered by an apology for who or what we are.
Our mediocre attitude of not confronting Islamic forces of bigotry and hatred wherever they raised their ugly head in the last 30 years, has empowered and strengthened our enemy to launch a full scale attack on the very freedoms we cherish in their effort to impose their values and way of life on our civilization.
If we don't wake up and challenge our Muslim community to take action against the terrorists within it, if we don't believe in ourselves as Americans and in the standards we should hold every patriotic American to, we are going to pay a price for our delusion. For the sake of our children and our country, we must wake up and take action. In the face of a torrent of hateful invective and terrorist murder, America 's learning curve since the Iran hostage crisis is so shallow that it is almost flat. The longer we lay supine, the more difficult it will be to stand erect.
Brigitte Gabriel is an expert on the Middle East conflict and lectures nationally and internationally on the subject. She's the former news anchor of World News for Middle East television and the founder ofAmericanCongressforTruth.com
Why don't you guys ever get tired of the same view all the time?
You know: the one from inside your own anus?
Could not resist crying b.s. on theicemanmpls when he claimed to be in this photo previously...
Back to the thread...
No Mosque at ground zero...
so his Sarcasm went zing right over your head, man we are literally taking some of these post way too seriously here.... N on the last... +1++
N for this old man enough for one day, it's time to go pick up a new Victory 8 ball.....
I don't view muslim any different than buddhist, christian, jew, agnostic, atheist, or anyone else, for that matter. I'm just defending their right to equal treatment in the face of unjust attacks by uninformed bigots.Cocked and locked why you are so insistent that the Muslim religion is such a peaceful one.
What Denmark can teach America about dealing with Muslims --- and what we ignore at our own risk"There are more than 200,000 Muslims in Denmark, a country with a population of 5.4 million. A few decades ago, Denmark had no Muslims at all. Not surprisingly, Islam has come to be viewed by many as a threat to the survival of Danish culture.For 20 years, Muslims have been denied a permit to build mosques in Copenhagen. And there are no Muslim cemeteries in Denmark, so the bodies of Muslims have to be flown back to their home countries for proper burial."
"Regarding this Muslim rioting and killing over some cartoons, all freedom loving people must stand with Denmark against Islamic fascism. This is further proof Islam is incompatible with civilized society and we must reconsider Muslim immigration into the West. It's time we start being "offended" by their barbaric behavior. Don't play the race card or political correctness with me. I have no problem with Arab Christians or Indian Hindus, often victims of Muslim violence as well. A play at a Christian Church in Egypt caused "offended" Muslims to riot and destroy seven churches."
"I believe women have equal rights to men, Islam doesn't. In Pakistan a man murdered his stepdaughter who was accused of adultery, then murdered his other minor three daughters for "family honor." All legal in Muslim society, so where are the Liberals on this one? (AP Dec. 28) When a Muslim woman wanted to marry a Christian man, the so-called Palestinian Muslims murdered her and firebombed the entire Christian community. It's illegal for a Muslim women to marry a non-Muslim, but not vice-versa. Who says they just riot over pictures?
Muslims disseminate an endless stream of anti-Semitism and religious hate against Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists. Where's those yelling political correctness? The Left takes every opportunity to attack America, but makes excuses and blame us for Muslim violence. I don't see Christians or Hindus bombing subways or rioting.
Muslims NEED to police the ANIMALS within their ranks. They talk, talk, talk about don't compare all Muslims with the Muslims who are terrorists. Then THEY, the rest of the Muslims, NEED to get the mentally sick (the Muslim terrorists) under control. Killing them all if that is what is needed. Killing just them. NOT innocent men, women, and children, and then screaming they are 'freedom' fighters."Muslims come to the West to enjoy prosperity their own bankrupt culture could never provide, then sit in silence as savages in the name of Islam create havoc everywhere. They want us to apologize for offending them?"
America lost twice as many people then 911 during only one battle with the Empire of Japan.
Can anyone explain why we allow the memorials to the Japanese?
The Mosque in question is not being built at ground zero. It is three city blocks away.
It wasn't the nation of Islam who piloted those aircraft. It was a terrorist unit from Saudi Arabia.
Their religion happens to be Islam.
Saudi Arabia is America's friend, right? Where did Billy Bob get the gasoline to fuel up his Ford 350? But he hates them A-rabs.
I think some people are way out of touch and lack the intelligence to know the difference.
Casualties and losses
USA
6,822 dead[2]
19,217 wounded[1]
USS Bismarck Sea (CVE-95), sunk 21 February 1945, 318 crewmen lost
Japan
17,845–18,375 dead[1]
216 captured[1]
The Battle of Iwo Jima
Main article: Battle of Iwo Jima
The invasion of Iwo Jima began on February 19, 1945, and continued to March 26, 1945. The battle was a major initiative of the Pacific Campaign of World War II. The Marine invasion, known as Operation Detachment, was charged with the mission of capturing the airfields on the island which up until that time had harried U.S. bombing missions to Tokyo. Once the bases were secured, they could then be of use in the impending invasion of the Japanese mainland.
US postage stamp, 1945 issue, commemorating Battle of Iwo Jima.The battle was marked by some of the fiercest fighting of the War. The Imperial Japanese Army positions on the island were heavily fortified, with vast bunkers, hidden artillery, and 18 kilometers (11 mi) of tunnels.[7][8] The battle was the first U.S. attack on the Japanese Home Islands and the Imperial soldiers defended their positions tenaciously. Of the 21,000 Japanese soldiers present at the beginning of the battle, over 20,000 were killed and only 1,083 taken prisoner.[9]
One of the first objectives after landing on the beachhead was the taking of Mount Suribachi. At the second raising of a flag on the peak, Joe Rosenthal photographed five Marines: Ira Hayes, Mike Strank, Rene Gagnon, Harlon Block, Franklin Sousley, and U.S. Navy corpsman John Bradley raising the U.S. flag on the fourth day of the battle (February 23). The photograph was extremely popular, being reprinted in thousands of publications. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Photography that same year, and ultimately came to be regarded as one of the most significant and recognizable images of the war, and possibly the most reproduced photograph of all time.[10]
Within the next month of fighting, three of the six soldiers raising the flag were killed: Strank, Block and Sousley.
After the fall of Mt. Suribachi in the south, the Japanese still held a strong position throughout the island. General Tadamichi Kuribayashi still had the equivalent of eight infantry battalions, a tank regiment, two artillery and three heavy mortar battalions, plus the 5,000 gunners and naval infantry. With the landing area secure, more troops and heavy equipment came ashore and the invasion proceeded north to capture the airfields and the remainder of the island. Most Japanese soldiers fought to the death. On the night of March 25, a 300-man Japanese force launched a final counterattack. The Marines suffered heavy casualties; more than 100 were killed and another 200 Americans were wounded. The island was officially declared "secured" the following day. The number of American casualties was greater than the total Allied casualties at Battle of Normandy on D-Day.
Even after Iwo Jima was about to be declared secured, about three thousand Japanese soldiers were left alive in the island's warren of caves and tunnels. Those who could not bring themselves to commit suicide hid in the caves during the day and came out at night to prowl for provisions. Some did eventually surrender and were surprised that the Americans often received them with compassion - offering them water, cigarettes, or coffee.[11] The last of these stragglers, two of Lieutenant Toshihiko Ohno's (whose body was never found) men, Yamakage Kufuku and Matsudo Linsoki, lasted six years, surrendering in 1951[12] (another source gives the date of surrender as January 6, 1949).[13]
The U.S. military occupied Iwo Jima until 1968, when it was returned to Japan.
It has been reported that many of the Japanese remains in Iwo Jima are missing their skulls.[14] It is possible that the souvenir collection of body remains continued also in the immediate post-war period.[14] (See American mutilation of Japanese war dead)
[edit] Reunion of honor
On February 19, 1985, the 40th anniversary of the day that U.S. forces began the assault on the island, veterans from both forces gathered for the Reunion of Honor just a few meters away from the spot where U.S. Marines had landed on the island.[15] During the memorial service a granite plaque was unveiled with the message:
On the 40th anniversary of the battle of Iwo Jima, American and Japanese veterans met again on these same sands, this time in peace and friendship. We commemorate our comrades, living and dead, who fought here with bravery and honor, and we pray together that our sacrifices on Iwo Jima will always be remembered and never be repeated.
It is inscribed on both sides of the plaque, with the English translation facing the beaches where U.S. forces landed and the Japanese translation facing inland, where Japanese troops defended their position.
After that, the Japan-U.S. combination memorial service of the 50th anniversary was held in front of this monument in March 1995. The 55th anniversary was held in 2000, followed by a 60th reunion in March 2005
Battle of Iwo Jima - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Healing? This entire issue has done nothing but enrage US citizens!! No peace will be had after what was done that September morning. It's far to fresh in the minds of Americans. Perhaps in another 50 or 60 years we can revisit this bullshit request and see if the pain and hurt has subsided. I say lets wait and see...:biggrin:
In the interim we can look at and perhaps focus on, more pressing issues such as the economy or perhaps the enforcing of our immigration laws rather than ignoring them.
The reason we have an agreement with Japan, $$$... Yea good old dollars baby... They are a country that we do business with. Lots of cars and electronics... They like the money... So do we... Islam is a religion and we have nothing to profit or gain from them.
So I say embrace the nation of Islam and be peaceful if that's what makes you happy. Allow the rest of us to snub our noses and say "HELL NO, not there!!" If we feel like we want to, and most of us do. Read the polls and think about why...
Put it to a vote, not here but where it counts...Allow the citizens of the USA to decide. It's our country and we should have final say as to what flies here and what is unacceptable. Getting sick of being told what's good for us by whining socialist liberals... Sellouts....
The public voting will never happen because the liberal side of the USA got their small victory and elected a Muslim as their leader... He has doomed himself... His approval rating is at an all time low. Besides who gives a rats ass what the president has to say. He has not been listening to the citizens of the US so now it's time for the citizens to stop listening to him... Hey it's easy, just call us racists. Yea that's the ticket.. How about opinionated. I prefer that label...It's closer to the truth...
This topic has had the sh!t kicked out of it here on this site. And guess what? You and your cohort are about the only 2 still thinking it's a good idea.
The pain must be agonizing for you to submit to this punishment day in and day out. Either that or you ran short of cash to pay the dominatrix...
Anyway... I've written it many times many ways, Merry Ch... Whoops that's not it... No mosque at or within 10 city blocks of ground 0 in NY...
Peace...
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