Adam Lanza, Newtown Shooter... What a Piece of Work


As with any case of this nature there is plenty of blame to go around. And the one person whom the blame should fall firmly upon is generally dirt napping.
Blame parental Love. I can see where the parent(s) would have made compromises to keep the peace within their home. And I'm sure as a parent it would be hard to even admit that your own child would be on a path to injure other people.
Lets face it, many times the reason someone is not committed is because of lack of bed space and cost to the system. Two terrible reasons, but still reality.
Erring on the side of cost is more than likely not a viable solution but one that is made every day in homes and medical facilities every single day.
 

Of course it's white washed. They don't want people to know that they ignored the warnings. They want to embolden the anti gun groups that have emerged from this. And they want the blame to lie with Nancy and Adam Lanza. Not with the myriad of self indulgent, peace loving, professionals who ignored this kid and allowed him to commit this atrocity.

That's right. The so called "mental health experts" saw no danger so his rampage must be the fault of lenient gun laws. It just makes me sick to my stomach.
 
I skimmed thru the report, picked out some of the bullet points for this post. I edited some to illustrate my point but if you read the whole report the context is essentially the same. The numbering is my own and is not the order in which they appear in the report. IMHO this rabid mutant's psychosis would have been apparent to even to anyone with the basic mental health education or experience. To be fair, not all the signs were apparent or manifested themselves at once, but the progression was clear.

1.) The shooter had a cell phone but never used it. Calls all went to voice mail. His father would just e-mail him when he wanted to reach him.

2.) The mother took care of all of the shooter’s needs. And she was the only person to whom the shooter would talk.

3.) The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate. Certain types of dishware could not be used for particular foods. The mother would shop for him and cook to the shooter’s specifications, though sometimes he would cook for himself. Reportedly the shooter did not drink alcohol, take drugs, prescription or Otherwise, and hated the thought of doing any of those things.

4.) The mother did the shooter’s laundry on a daily basis as the shooter often changed clothing during the day. She was not allowed in the shooter’s room, however, even to clean. No one was allowed in his room.

5.) The shooter disliked birthdays, Christmas and holidays. He would not allow his mother to put up a Christmas tree. The mother explained it by saying that shooter had no emotions or feelings. The mother also got rid of a cat because the shooter did not want it in the house.

6.) When the shooter had his hair cut, he did not like to be touched and did not like the sound of clippers, so they were not used much. He would sit with his hands in his lap and always look down, giving one word answers if the cutter tried to engage him in conversation.

7.) Service personnel who worked on the property at 36 Yogananda Street never entered the home. They spoke with the mother outside in the yard or at the bottom of driveway. They were instructed never to ring the doorbell and to make prior arrangements before using power equipment as her son had issues with loud noises. The shooter was observed at times coming and going from the residence.

8.) There were a number of people who knew the mother over the years, some fairly well, who had never met the shooter – although were aware of his existence – and had never been inside her residence.

9.) The fifth grade was also the year that, related to a class project, the shooter produced the “Big Book of Granny” in which the main character has a gun in her cane and shoots People. The story includes violence against children. There is no indication this was ever handed in to the school. the shooter indicated that he did not like sports, did not think highly of himself and believed that everyone else in the world deserved more than he did.

10.) In seventh grade, a teacher described the shooter as intelligent but not normal, with anti-social issues. He was quiet, barely spoke and did not want to participate in anything. His writing assignments obsessed about battles, destruction and war, far more than others his age. The level of violence in the writing was disturbing. At the same time, when asked to write a poem, he was able to write a beautiful one and presented it in public.

11.) In the school setting, the shooter had extreme anxiety and discomfort with changes, noise, and physical contact with others. He was also remembered for pulling his sleeves over his hand to touch something. The shooter was unable to make eye contact, sensitive to light and couldn’t stand to be touched. Over time he had multiple daily rituals, an inability to touch door knobs, repeated hand washing and obsessive clothes changing, to the point that his mother was frequently doing laundry.

12.) [An] acquaintance said the shooter seemed to enjoy nature and mentioned the possibility of going hiking more than once. Topics of conversation included world and current events, the shooter indicated that he had an interest in mass murders and serial killing. They never spent a lot of time discussing them, but it would be a topic of conversation.

13.) Those mental health professionals who saw him did not see anything that would have predicted his future behavior. [from the report]

Among the other danger signs as mentioned above were some real paradoxes.

#6,7, & 11 make it plain about the shooters almost disabling phobias concerning noise, light, touching objects/physical contact with others & objects. Yet he had no problems with handling & shooting firearms, although I saw somewhere in the report there were earplugs in his ears when they found his body. My Bushmaster carbine has a noise & flash signature that is very apparent even with ear protection. Inside that school with the masonry walls...it must have sounded like a cannon going off. The feelings of low esteem, fascination with violence and lack of empathy & emotional attachment...well that explains how he was able to murder five year old children with abandon. And then pile their bodies up and continue to keep shooting them.

That allegedly trained and experienced professionals in the field could not determine he was a threat to himself and others speaks volumes.

What is worse IMHO, are members of a political party and MSM who seize this tragedy as an opportunity stand on the graves of the victims and use them as a cudgel against law-abiding firearms owners in a pathetic attempt to demonize and disarm them. The guns are only partly responsible for the tragedy at Sandy Hook. The "progressive" laws passed by liberal democrats, which make it all but impossible to confine the dangerous mentally ill are the real villains.
 
I skimmed thru the report, picked out some of the bullet points for this post. I edited some to illustrate my point but if you read the whole report the context is essentially the same. The numbering is my own and is not the order in which they appear in the report. IMHO this rabid mutant's psychosis would have been apparent to even to anyone with the basic mental health education or experience. To be fair, not all the signs were apparent or manifested themselves at once, but the progression was clear.

1.) The shooter had a cell phone but never used it. Calls all went to voice mail. His father would just e-mail him when he wanted to reach him.

2.) The mother took care of all of the shooter’s needs. And she was the only person to whom the shooter would talk.

3.) The shooter was particular about the food that he ate and its arrangement on a plate in relation to other foods on the plate. Certain types of dishware could not be used for particular foods. The mother would shop for him and cook to the shooter’s specifications, though sometimes he would cook for himself. Reportedly the shooter did not drink alcohol, take drugs, prescription or Otherwise, and hated the thought of doing any of those things.

4.) The mother did the shooter’s laundry on a daily basis as the shooter often changed clothing during the day. She was not allowed in the shooter’s room, however, even to clean. No one was allowed in his room.

5.) The shooter disliked birthdays, Christmas and holidays. He would not allow his mother to put up a Christmas tree. The mother explained it by saying that shooter had no emotions or feelings. The mother also got rid of a cat because the shooter did not want it in the house.

6.) When the shooter had his hair cut, he did not like to be touched and did not like the sound of clippers, so they were not used much. He would sit with his hands in his lap and always look down, giving one word answers if the cutter tried to engage him in conversation.

7.) Service personnel who worked on the property at 36 Yogananda Street never entered the home. They spoke with the mother outside in the yard or at the bottom of driveway. They were instructed never to ring the doorbell and to make prior arrangements before using power equipment as her son had issues with loud noises. The shooter was observed at times coming and going from the residence.

8.) There were a number of people who knew the mother over the years, some fairly well, who had never met the shooter – although were aware of his existence – and had never been inside her residence.

9.) The fifth grade was also the year that, related to a class project, the shooter produced the “Big Book of Granny” in which the main character has a gun in her cane and shoots People. The story includes violence against children. There is no indication this was ever handed in to the school. the shooter indicated that he did not like sports, did not think highly of himself and believed that everyone else in the world deserved more than he did.

10.) In seventh grade, a teacher described the shooter as intelligent but not normal, with anti-social issues. He was quiet, barely spoke and did not want to participate in anything. His writing assignments obsessed about battles, destruction and war, far more than others his age. The level of violence in the writing was disturbing. At the same time, when asked to write a poem, he was able to write a beautiful one and presented it in public.

11.) In the school setting, the shooter had extreme anxiety and discomfort with changes, noise, and physical contact with others. He was also remembered for pulling his sleeves over his hand to touch something. The shooter was unable to make eye contact, sensitive to light and couldn’t stand to be touched. Over time he had multiple daily rituals, an inability to touch door knobs, repeated hand washing and obsessive clothes changing, to the point that his mother was frequently doing laundry.

12.) [An] acquaintance said the shooter seemed to enjoy nature and mentioned the possibility of going hiking more than once. Topics of conversation included world and current events, the shooter indicated that he had an interest in mass murders and serial killing. They never spent a lot of time discussing them, but it would be a topic of conversation.

13.) Those mental health professionals who saw him did not see anything that would have predicted his future behavior. [from the report]

Among the other danger signs as mentioned above were some real paradoxes.

#6,7, & 11 make it plain about the shooters almost disabling phobias concerning noise, light, touching objects/physical contact with others & objects. Yet he had no problems with handling & shooting firearms, although I saw somewhere in the report there were earplugs in his ears when they found his body. My Bushmaster carbine has a noise & flash signature that is very apparent even with ear protection. Inside that school with the masonry walls...it must have sounded like a cannon going off. The feelings of low esteem, fascination with violence and lack of empathy & emotional attachment...well that explains how he was able to murder five year old children with abandon. And then pile their bodies up and continue to keep shooting them.

That allegedly trained and experienced professionals in the field could not determine he was a threat to himself and others speaks volumes.

What is worse IMHO, are members of a political party and MSM who seize this tragedy as an opportunity stand on the graves of the victims and use them as a cudgel against law-abiding firearms owners in a pathetic attempt to demonize and disarm them. The guns are only partly responsible for the tragedy at Sandy Hook. The "progressive" laws passed by liberal democrats, which make it all but impossible to confine the dangerous mentally ill are the real villains.
Good summary. The warning light should have been blinking bright red on this bug. Your last statement is of particular importance. "The progressive laws passed by liberal democrats, which make it all but impossible to confine the dangerous mentally ill are the real villains." Just like everything else they do... it's backwards. Consider the Affordable Care Act. Nuff said.
 
BC 1,Its worse than that. The way I see it, part of the ahem, UNaffordable Care Act is aimed at firearms owners. Get ready for intrusive questions about guns directed at law abiding firearms owners. I believe it also resurrects or removes the block on funding junk science studies on firearms and violence.
 
Lanza, as well as virtually all of the recent mass murders, was on a cocktail of anti-psychotic type meds.
'nough said.
 
BC 1,Its worse than that. The way I see it, part of the ahem, UNaffordable Care Act is aimed at firearms owners. Get ready for intrusive questions about guns directed at law abiding firearms owners. I believe it also resurrects or removes the block on funding junk science studies on firearms and violence.
I've heard. That's why I no habla. :yes4:
 
Fault lies exclusively with a society that refuses adults the right to protect themselves and their children with any and all means necessary. Let us not forget that Sandy Hook was a gun free zone. Lanza didn't declare it to be a gun free zone...society did. Society provides killing fields for anyone so inclined. Lanza was so inclined. I don't blame violent video games or plastic bags over windows. I don't even blame the mental health workers. I don't want society giving anyone blanket authority to lock up any and all they deem nuts. Do you know that a large segment of society thinks gun owners are loony tunes...that Christians are loony tunes? Lanza could not have gotten past the front door if the school principle would have placed some well aimed lead at his head rather than trying to be a hero and jump in front of a gunman. No unarmed person will ever stop a well armed person by jumping in front of bullets. That is simple science and physiology! This is more of a simple case of evil triumphing over good because people don't want to believe that evil exists...they are just misunderstood...well so was Hitler.
 
Lanza, as well as virtually all of the recent mass murders, was on a cocktail of anti-psychotic type meds.
'nough said.

He was on no drugs and refused to take any.
I think he would have been more functional and less inclined to murder if he had.
 
BC 1,Its worse than that. The way I see it, part of the ahem, UNaffordable Care Act is aimed at firearms owners. Get ready for intrusive questions about guns directed at law abiding firearms owners. I believe it also resurrects or removes the block on funding junk science studies on firearms and violence.
The Act is just like so many other things that come out of DC. They just don't work in the way planned. And the AHCA site is down for 12 hours of repairs tonight. Anyone want to bet it still doesn't work at 0800 in the morning like it is supposed to. I think the Dems in Congress write laws that are broken just so they can run to get reelected to fix what they break. GFSZs are a prime example of a law that does not work.
 
The Act is just like so many other things that come out of DC. They just don't work in the way planned. And the AHCA site is down for 12 hours of repairs tonight. Anyone want to bet it still doesn't work at 0800 in the morning like it is supposed to. I think the Dems in Congress write laws that are broken just so they can run to get reelected to fix what they break. GFSZs are a prime example of a law that does not work.
The government has a horrible track record running anything. They shouldn't be in the healthcare business. But that's part of the socialist plan... make people dependent on the gov't.
 
The cause of the deaths at Sandy Hook is not guns, is not the mental health system, is not the psychopaths or their parents. The cause of the deaths at Sandy Hook is the Federal Government, the Connecticut State Government, the Sandy Hook School Board and the people of Newtown. All of these groups allowed the innocent people at the school to be completely unprotected. Even more appalling is that almost a year after having this graphically and gruesomely pointed out to them, they continue the same negligent behavior as does the rest of the country, except for a very small few who have taken it upon themselves to arm and train responsible people to protect their school at the local level, the most effective way it can be done. No child in any other school in this country is being protected from any madman that so desires to just walk in and start killing them. Everybody is arguing about what can be done while nothing is being done. I visit many schools on a regular basis and I feel very vulnerable every time I'm there because I am prohibited as is everyone else from defending ourselves and protecting all of those innocent children who trust us with their lives. The deaths of those at Sandy Hook and of those that haven't happened yet but surely will if this keeps on, rests squarely on the shoulders of those who are responsible for protecting them and fail to do so, and in fact do the opposite by making them an attractive target for the psychopaths.
 
One cannot legislate insanity or morality. Especially when the ones doing the legislating are insane and have no morals.
 
Howdy,

This isn't a state issue alone. It's a federal issue that runs coast to coast. Liberalism run amuck. We can't institutionalize these nut cases because it violates their civil rights, even if they are a danger to society. We have to main line kids in public schools with mental and physical disabilities. Some to the level that have to have constant special attention. Then cut school budgets and reduce the number of teachers making larger class sizes. All the time we waist money on studies to figure out why our educational system is so far behind the rest of the world and why these nut cases slip through the cracks. Only in America.


Gee, you would think that most of the members here are old enough to remember that Nixon and then Reagan emptied the Nut Houses and allowed people like the Sandy Hook shooter to roam the streets of America.

So, nowadays the Right -Wingers want all the crazies and nutjobs locked up.

Ok. So, who's going to pay for it?

The Big Box Store, Big Oil and the Mega Corps?

I don't think so.

Mitt Romney and his fellow 1%ers?

You're freakin' kidding, right?

The Welfare Class?

Too freakin' funny!!

The Blue Collar Working Middle Class?

Gee, aren't we overtaxed already?

So, who's gonna pay to lock up all the nuts?

How about instead we just let them roam the streets and they can stay drugged up at the taxpayer's expense?

Oh, wait......... That would be socialized medicine. But so would State and Federal funded Nut Houses.

Scratch that idea.

No Federally or State funded Nut Houses.

No Federally or State funded program to provide meds for the crazies and nutjobs.

So, what do you recommend?

The Private Sector?

Yeah, right. Without Federal or State funds there isn't any profit to be made so the Private Sector isn't interested.

Churches? Where would they get the additional funds?

Charities? See above answer.

Ok USA Carry brain trust, what's the answer?

Paul

P.S. I got a kick out of the Right-Wingers "blaming" the Liberials for not having a Socialized Medicine System that would lock up people like the Sandy Hook shooter and wanting peoples' rights taken away from them just so they, the Right-Wing, could feel safer.
 
P.S. I got a kick out of the Right-Wingers "blaming" the Liberials for not having a Socialized Medicine System that would lock up people like the Sandy Hook shooter and wanting peoples' rights taken away from them just so they, the Right-Wing, could feel safer.
Once again, stungun, you've gone off half-c o c ked. Locking up the nuts is our second choice. Our FIRST CHOICE is to allow the potential victims to be armed, thereby solving the problem of having to lock up the nuts.
 
Howdy K7lvo,

Once again, stungun, you've gone off half-c o c ked. Locking up the nuts is our second choice. Our FIRST CHOICE is to allow the potential victims to be armed, thereby solving the problem of having to lock up the nuts.[/QUOT

Yeah, that's the ticket! Arm everyone and let them shoot the crazy people.

So, who gets to decide who gets a gun and who is considered crazy?

Paul
 
Howdy K7lvo,

Once again, stungun, you've gone off half-c o c ked. Locking up the nuts is our second choice. Our FIRST CHOICE is to allow the potential victims to be armed, thereby solving the problem of having to lock up the nuts.[/QUOT

Yeah, that's the ticket! Arm everyone and let them shoot the crazy people.

So, who gets to decide who gets a gun and who is considered crazy?

Paul

Certainly not you. You are too busy swallowing liberal spit to be of any serious use to anyone. Just MHO
 

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