One in the chamber or not ????

Bigdaddyyankee

Bigdaddyyankee

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Something that has been in my mind whether to walk around with one in the chamber or not. Do you have the time to chamber a round if confronted . Let me know your opinion.

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Look everyone I done research I am looking for some friendly options it is a legitimate question "Peggy" let's leave out the "Seriously" remarks.

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Bigdaddyyankee said:
Look everyone I done research I am looking for some friendly options it is a legitimate question "Peggy" let's leave out the "Seriously" remarks.

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Actually... Seriously?? You've been on the forums for a couple of years. This topic has been tossed around, dragged in the mud, beaten, bloodied, bruised, and then tossed back in the ring to do over several more times.

That's the reason for your initial replies to your question.

Please search the many many threads with this very specific topic and join them.

We are not being rude, it's just that this topic has been asked way too much and you can join into the many conversations floating around this forum rather than starting a brand new one with the same question. :smile:
 
 
"Anyone who carries without the chamber loaded and has survived a deadly encounter will tell you they had enough time to rack a round into the chamber."
but the corollary to that is - -
"Anyone who carried without the chamber loaded and didn't survive a deadly encounter won't tell you anything different; they're too busy being dead."

There's nothing wrong with carrying on an empty chamber, as long as you can guarantee that
- you'll never have a loved one frantically clawing at your other arm in terror as you draw and attempt to rack the slide
- you'll never have anything valuable in your other arm that you're not willing to drop without even a moment's thought
- you'll never be using your other arm to defend your life from an attack as you draw your weapon
- you'll never be injured in your other arm making it impossible to grasp the slide and draw it back (although practice with belts and heels can help alleviate this.)
- you'll never have your dog or other animal leashed to your other hand and tugging at the leash as you try to rack the slide
- you'll never be handing on to anything for dear life with your other hand as you draw and try to rack the slide.

... nothing wrong at all with carrying on an empty chamber... as long as you're willing to accept the risk.
 
I carry a 1911 condition 1 cocked and locked, that is how it is supposed to be carried. The 1911 has a grip safety and a manuel safety making it impossable to fire by accident. You have to practice taking the manuel safety off as you draw to be ready in a fight. It is much faster to release the thumb safety and be ready to fire then to have to rack the slide as you draw and prepare to fire.
 
Fallschirmjäger said:
There's nothing wrong with carrying on an empty chamber, as long as you can guarantee that
- - you'll never have anything valuable in your other arm that you're not willing to drop without even a moment's thought
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Can't imagine what would be so valuable that I'd be willing to get myself killed rather than drop it, A live grenade I suppose
 
Fallschirmjäger said:
"Anyone who carries without the chamber loaded and has survived a deadly encounter will tell you they had enough time to rack a round into the chamber."
but the corollary to that is - -
"Anyone who carried without the chamber loaded and didn't survive a deadly encounter won't tell you anything different; they're too busy being dead."

There's nothing wrong with carrying on an empty chamber, as long as you can guarantee that
- you'll never have a loved one frantically clawing at your other arm in terror as you draw and attempt to rack the slide
- you'll never have anything valuable in your other arm that you're not willing to drop without even a moment's thought
- you'll never be using your other arm to defend your life from an attack as you draw your weapon
- you'll never be injured in your other arm making it impossible to grasp the slide and draw it back (although practice with belts and heels can help alleviate this.)
- you'll never have your dog or other animal leashed to your other hand and tugging at the leash as you try to rack the slide
- you'll never be handing on to anything for dear life with your other hand as you draw and try to rack the slide.

... nothing wrong at all with carrying on an empty chamber... as long as you're willing to accept the risk.
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I like your imagination. I can picture it all and it seems like a good action movie. And I like the whole Boy Scout preparedness of it all.

But remember that, statistically, the chances of any of us having to pull the trigger in self defense at some point in our lives is ridiculously small. Most situations are defused by showing a weapon.

Nothing in the chamber? Show your piece and bluff your way out of it. It'll almost always work. That's the other side of the argument.
 
Nothing in the chamber? Show your piece and bluff your way out of it. It'll almost always work. That's the other side of the argument.
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"Almost always" isn't something I'm really thrilled about risking my like with. I prefer to alter the odds as much in my favor as I can. A loaded weapon in my hands as opposed to an unloaded one would seem to do that.

The chances that you'll need your seat belt on any one trip are pretty small too. Does that mean people should leave themselves unbelted until they see an accident begin to develop?

Statistically.... we're more likely to be assaulted rather than to be assaulting someone. That means someone has already initiated action against us, that we're already behind the power curve, that we're reacting rather than being proactive. I'm all for minimizing the amount of time I need to react and carrying an unloaded weapon just adds time and complications to an already .... exciting... occurrence.


Can you name a deadly force scenario where someone would be better served by an empty chamber than a loaded one?
 
Fallschirmjäger said:
"Anyone who carries without the chamber loaded and has survived a deadly encounter will tell you they had enough time to rack a round into the chamber."
but the corollary to that is - -
"Anyone who carried without the chamber loaded and didn't survive a deadly encounter won't tell you anything different; they're too busy being dead."

There's nothing wrong with carrying on an empty chamber, as long as you can guarantee that
- you'll never have a loved one frantically clawing at your other arm in terror as you draw and attempt to rack the slide
- you'll never have anything valuable in your other arm that you're not willing to drop without even a moment's thought
- you'll never be using your other arm to defend your life from an attack as you draw your weapon
- you'll never be injured in your other arm making it impossible to grasp the slide and draw it back (although practice with belts and heels can help alleviate this.)
- you'll never have your dog or other animal leashed to your other hand and tugging at the leash as you try to rack the slide
- you'll never be handing on to anything for dear life with your other hand as you draw and try to rack the slide.

... nothing wrong at all with carrying on an empty chamber... as long as you're willing to accept the risk.
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Not bad, but I like Peggys response better,
 
OK I have something I don't think has been said, and I'm absolutly not trying to be a smart alec, If you have to ask that question, maybe you should not carry a gun until you can figure it out on your own
 
I'm now usually only carrying one of my 2 recent purchases, my Ruger SR1911 .45acp or my S&W M&P .40sw If I'm carrying the Ruger, she's cocked & locked, ready to Rock! If it's the Smith, is condition 1, it doesn't have a manual safety, or a grip safety, mag safety, nor internal safety. Si I just keep my finger off the trigger, unless it's needed.

Dennis in Idaho

"You'll always remember the Ride! The destination is great, don't get me wrong, but you'll ALWAYS Remember the Ride!"
 
Rocketgeezer said:
OK I have something I don't think has been said, and I'm absolutly not trying to be a smart alec, If you have to ask that question, maybe you should not carry a gun until you can figure it out on your own
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It's just a question I know what I am doing already have my opinion I know what and how I like to carry just want to see everyone else's opinions answer to your reply yup a little smart but it's cool

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