This explains why you are an instructor. You see what I mean, Phillip -- every time someone posts a thread asking for recommendations you'll get a list a mile long of calibers and particular firearms. I use a Browning Hi-Power for concealed, for instance, but that does not mean that I will recommend that one. It was a PERSONAL CHOICE, as is the selection of any firearm for any given person, so hopefully before we get lists of "best calibers," "best semiautomatic," etc., Norman J will just take your advice.