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NRA Carry Guard Training - No 1911s or revolvers as primary

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I got the pointer to this story from Link Removed. There is certainly more to this than the TTAG headline. The NRA Carry Guard seems to branch out into professional firearms training that is way beyond the original basic NRA training classes. The 3-day $850 Link Removed class features:


The amount of time (3 days), topics covered, round count, equipment requirement and price are pretty much what professional firearms schools have. I am not sure if there is a market for this, given the general apathy of average gun owners to get training to begin with. There is also the issue of lack of reputation and the NRA's historical model of franchising training out to less/ill-qualified trainers. Does this really have the potential to become a training for the masses? Only time will tell!

Meanwhile, the USCCA has teamed up with Rob Pincus' Personal Defense Network:

 
So, why is the 1911 verboten? Is that insinuating that they won't cover CC folks that prefer the 1911? I don't have insurance yet and doubt I am buying a new compact striker for CC just to fit the wickets. I have an older one and don't like it for a few reasons as it is.

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They did not say why no 1911s or revolvers as a primary, but it is likely that the training was developed for modern hammer- and striker-fired handguns. It is quite common to request students not to use compact 1911s chambered in .45 ACP and revolvers in training classes to make their life easier, but it is usually up to the student to bring what they have. A good firearms school teaches train as you fight, i.e., don't use any equipment that you wouldn't use on the street (except for eye and ear protection).

I personally have nothing against students bringing whatever gun they would like to train with, as long it is drop safe. It certainly adds entertainment value to see students struggle with their prized handguns that simply don't work well. With 1,500 rounds and a 5-shot revolver, the close-to 300 repetitions would certainly make sure one can efficiently reload that revolver.

I don't think that training is a requirement for the insurance. Just like with the USCCA, it is optional and a separate product. I am a USCCA member and have never taken any of their training classes. The NRA Carry Guard insurance product is inferior, by the way.
 
I haven't really looked at the differences between USCCA and NRA. A good post on here would be to illustrate the relative pros and cons of both. I am going to look at both at some point this year.

I train with my SAS 1911 and there is no discernable difference to me in terms of draw between it and my striker fired pieces. I will only train with my EDC on a very regular basis and do. Ammo isn't cheap to feed all the hungry family members.

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See https://www.usacarry.com/forums/politics-and-news/60416-uscca-kicked-out-nra-annual-meeting-2.html#post621145, https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/index.php/learn/307-buyers-guide and Link Removed.
 
Means nothing in my state of Texas. Has to be state approved course and even then people had a fit when it cost $140.00 to get LTC....they ain't paying the costs of this course just to carry concealed...I.will take a pass.

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DryFireU said:
Means nothing in my state of Texas. Has to be state approved course and even then people had a fit when it cost $140.00 to get LTC....they ain't paying the costs of this course just to carry concealed...I.will take a pass.
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This type of training has zero do do with getting a carry permit. As an apparent instructor, you should know that. Proper supervised training costs money. As an apparent instructor, you should know that too. No one forces you to take such training. Then there is the general apathy of average gun owners to get training to begin with, I mentioned in my OP.
 
It has everything to do with who is willing to pay...

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DryFireU said:
Too Pricey
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Not for the type of training that is being offered. The price is pretty much on par with comparative training classes in the market of the same quality. Those classes, however, have better name recognition and reputation. The NRA Carry Guard training program is new and an unknown entity.
 
From Rob Pincus via Facebook:


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Rob Pincus Matt Meagher Military service isn't a bad thing, but a complete lack of significant experience teaching personal defense shooting and/or tactics in the private sector is a huge concern.
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