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laser sights ????????????????

laser sights for your personal cc gun ????????????

  • yes I use laser sights on my cc gun

    Votes: 22 17.9%
  • No I do not use laser sights on my cc gun

    Votes: 64 52.0%
  • Yes I do and would recomend them to others to use on there cc gun

    Votes: 23 18.7%
  • No I do not and would not recomend someone to use them on there cc gun

    Votes: 14 11.4%

  • Total voters
    123
I always viewed them as a novelty until I held a friend's XD with Crimson Trace. The practicality of them escaped me until I literally had the gun in-hand and put the dot on what I wanted to hit....FROM THE HIP. It wasn't until then that I "saw the light". I just got an XD that I'll be carrying full-time and it won't be more than a couple weeks before it's "crimson'd up". +1 for lasers. Also getting one for the wife's .38 snubbie.
 

I have no intention of putting one on my EDC. Most situations are reduced to point shooting, and if I have more time, iron sights are fine.

I am considering one for my HD gun. Low-light acquisition and assurance for my wife...
 
I have no intention of putting one on my EDC. Most situations are reduced to point shooting, and if I have more time, iron sights are fine.

I am considering one for my HD gun. Low-light acquisition and assurance for my wife...

I agree with you that most situations are reduced to a point-n-shoot tactic. I figure that having the laser might be an advantage in some conditions, while not hindering any more normal-type shooting if those conditions aren't present. So, yes, you probably don't need laser, but it'll be there if there's ever a call for it.
 
I've watched people at the range concentrate so hard on keeping their lasers still, it took away their focus. When they had to rapid fire, draw, point and shoot, they developed a habit focusing on the laser instead of the target. I thought there is more than enough time in SC CWP Range Qualification Test.

I asked someone else about laser's who had it on their practice pistol but not their CCW. One reason that struck me was in a point and shoot case, they didn't want to know where the bullet may hit (kill/disable). They didn't want the opportunity or chance that they will second guess themselves. Made sense to me.
 

That does bring up a couple good issues. I'd say that for at least 80% of my practicing I wouldn't want the laser activated. I'd go ahead and flip the master switch off. I don't want to fall into a habit of relying on it. I can see how transferring your focus from the target to the dot would be easy to do. As far as people concentrating on keeping the laser dot still, I think that could be both a (+) and a (-). On the (-) side, you do want their focus where it should be and not on the dot. Just because there's a dot on it doesn't mean that's necessarily where the round is going to go. On the (+) side, it could be a good training tool for 1) proves to anyone that they're not going to make a headshot at 75yds., 2) visibly shows a shooter just how tiny a movement will greatly impact shot placement (which I guess, is the same thing as the long headshot I mentioned), and 3) if the dot's in one place and the hole in another, work on trigger squeeze or breath control or grip... Hell, the more I think about it, the more I think it'd be more benficial as a training tool than as defense enhancement.
 
Hell, the more I think about it, the more I think it'd be more benficial as a training tool than as defense enhancement.

I was thinking the same thing myself. It would be good training tool to gain the control, steadiness and breathing.
 
I use the Crimson Trace on my carry gun.

The advantages out weigh any percieved disadvantages.

Laser sighting devices are not meant to be held still till you focus the sight and then drop the hammer on your bad guy. They are to be used as a secondary sighting system only. If your dissoriented from a blow to the head and your down on the ground, putting red dot on COM of the bad guy is going to give you an aiming reference when you othewise probably can't concentrate on standard sights or you are restricted from referencing your iron sights, such as having to shoot from the ground without the capability of having your pistol in a two handed grip, fully extended with iron sights and a full sight radius as used on the fireing line and at paper targets. . Think "point shooting" when your incapable of being on your feet, at the ready, with both arms extended. Think about it.

I've used IR lasers in the military with NV and their is no substitute to owning the night.

There are some pretty good articles on the proper use of visible lasers from various experts if you look hard enough on the web.

For example, here is Larry Vickers take on the CTC Laser grips. Larry Vickers has spent the majority of his life in the Special Operations side of the U.S. Army. Most of his operational time was 1st/SFOD-D (Delta)

 
I just put a set of CT on my S&W 640 since I could not resist the NRA Instructor discount they offer. Took them to the range this past weekend to sight in and test. At combat distances in bright Hawaii sun light I could see the red dot just fine on the target. Fired about 50 rounds just using the red dot (no sights) and found that after a few rounds I could put all the rounds in center mass even during rapid fire strings.

If you don't already have good handgun skills, this will not help you become a master. If you can already shoot, then these are excellent for low light use to snap shoot (no sights). The other thing I like about CT is that your trigger finger can cover the laser in the finger out of the trigger position so as to not give your position away while searching, when you go for the trigger the laser is now on the target.

And if you are getting older and don't see as well, then yes this is a big plus for low light shooting.

Great review by Ropadope above BTW while I was posting this - he's dead on concerning use of CT on J frames.
 
And if you are getting older and don't see as well, then yes this is a big plus for low light shooting.

Great review by Ropadope above BTW while I was posting this - he's dead on concerning use of CT on J frames.

Thanks USMC Guy.

Eyesight is also something I have trouble with, particularly the right eye. I'm dominate in that eye and right handed when shooting rifles and other long guns. After losing my right eye sight to uviatis I considered the purchase of a laser to mount on the HD shotgun, which is a Benelli M1 Super 90. I have Surefire White light available already installed, but using the ghost ring sights is almost impossible. A Surefie visible laser was rec'd to me for this conundrum. That or either learn to shoot left handed with the shotgun. Thus far it appears just the ticket for my HD visual deficit needs.

I currently carry a Sig P228 9mm Luger with CTC laser grips and would not leave the house without them. Just make sure your battery is up to snuff. I replace mine periodically just to be stay safe.

I'm glad that you have seen the light with CTC laser grips. (no pun intended/well maybe) :smile:
 
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