Which leaves 9 mm or 22lr / 223. I don't know very much about 223 other than it's a little bigger than a 22lr and is a rifle as opposed to handgun. I was reading that a 223 rifle with a 22 upper or adapter (whatever they're called) is nice because I can use 22lr for target practice and save alot on ammo. I would love some input on 223 for long range SHTF situations vs 9 mm. Also, if I get a larger rifle caliber that I can't shoot at the range- how much different would shooting be if I practiced with a 22lr. And... where do some of you who live in large cities go to shoot rifles with rifle calibers if you can't shoot at the range?
.223 Remington and 5.56x45mm Nato are almost the same round. The 5.56 round runs a little higher chamber pressure. 5.56 is typically military surplus ammo and can be had pretty cheap. If you have a gun chambered in 5.56 you can safely shoot .223, but it is not recomended to go the other way.Also, I saw that Gander Mountain has a S&W M&P 15 that's chambered in 223 Rem / 5.56 Nato. If I got this - since it's chambered for both, would it be possible to get the adapter / upper so I could use 22lr at the range?
.22lr is rimfire while .223 is centerfire. The .223 would use the AR15s gas operating system while the .22lr would be blowback operated. A drop in kit is more cost effective and what I would recommend.****** Building an Upper is what i meant by 'upper/adapter' . Is this as simple as buyinb a 22lr barell or more complex ?
A 9mm carbine would probably be you best bet unless you want a .22LR. If you want a .22LR buy a Ruger 10/22.
.22LR, .22Mag, .223/5.56mm, 7.62X39mm, .357Mag, 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP, .32-20WCF are all pistol rounds that you find in rifles or rifle rounds found in pistols. You can also get adapters to fire .32S&W in .30-06 rifles.I already have a Marlin 22lr which I go for my wife for HD because her fibro and arthritis make it too hard for her to handle the recoil. I'm thinking of something a little more powerful for myself, and I don't know - she might be able to handle a 9mm semi auto.
The main problem is that they only allow rifles that shoot pistol calibers at the rifle range, so that limits me. I wouldn't mind getting a 9 mm and a larger caliber for long range, but there's no place to practice with a rifle that's not pistol caliber except the couple times a year we go visit my wife's family on their farm.
.22LR, .22Mag, .223/5.56mm, 7.62X39mm, .357Mag, 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP, .32-20WCF are all pistol rounds that you find in rifles or rifle rounds found in pistols. You can also get adapters to fire .32S&W in .30-06 rifles.
The .45ACP would be but the largest round for use in a converted .30-06 would be the .32S&W. Most ranges I've shot at allowed my 9mm carbine indoors and one range will even allow up to a .50BMG. Too bad it only is 23yds long. Here is one company that makes the adapters. Link RemovedIf I'm understanding this right - .30-06 would be the most powerful caliber on the list and I could get .32s&w adapter which would be a pistol round. Is this correct, or would a .40sw or .45acp be more powerful in a rifle ?
Yes the 30/06 is way more powerful than any pistol round. Chamber adapters are just a novelty and you should likely stick to your original plan of a pistol caliber carbine.If I'm understanding this right - .30-06 would be the most powerful caliber on the list and I could get .32s&w adapter which would be a pistol round. Is this correct, or would a .40sw or .45acp be more powerful in a rifle ?
Most ranges I've shot at allowed my 9mm carbine indoors and one range will even allow up to a .50BMG. Too bad it only is 23yds long
I think I would stick to 22LR and 9mm. I have had good luck with Hi-Point pistols so I would buy a Hi-Point rifle for a little under $300 rather than buying an expensive rifle. If it works out for you, you can upgrade later. I also like my Marlin 60.
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