you can't fire them,their in a union
You couldn't be more wrong. Read this: Killed On Camera | Feature | Chicago ReaderOn the contrary,it would be very easy to fire the officer, union or not. His actions were criminal and in violation of the police procedures everywhere. The city's Personnel Board has more than enough ammunition to fire him and, in the process, possibly take disciplinary action against his superiors for allowing him to continue to threaten citizens. A union would have a hard time defending this fellow.
Like hell I can't. Unions never stopped me before. In this case I would charge him with a misdemeanor and have the DA get his resignation as part of any plea deal. He's dangerous to the general public.you can't fire them,their in a union
Very unlikely, given that that would be construed as an admission of the victim's defense in criminal court. The city wants to prosecute the victim... no matter how much it ultimately costs.Like hell I can't. Unions never stopped me before. In this case I would charge him with a misdemeanor and have the DA get his resignation as part of any plea deal. He's dangerous to the general public.
You couldn't be more wrong. Read this: Killed On Camera | Feature | Chicago Reader
Weems was NEVER fired. He recently shot himself.
Harless hasn't (that we KNOW OF) murdered anybody... yet.
Couple things.
1. Never leave your vehicle unless ordered too.
2. Dont wave your license around... one must verbally notify in Ohio & produce a license upon request.
3. Hands where they can be seen on the steering wheel.
4. Speak loud, clear and notify, even if you have to interrupt the officer, finish your sentence. Do not tell stories or explain ... NOTIFY!
5. Move slow and with clear intent. (One shouldnt need to move at all when verbally informing, but may need to move in order to obtain their DL and CHL)
6. Do not touch your gun, unless ordered too.
7. Carry a voice recorder.
8. Don't stop to chat up a HO.
If you give him a good enough plea offer he'd go willingly. As counsel to the NYC BOE, that's the exact technique my good friend used to terminate bad teachers in NYC. Perverts and such. Get their teaching license as part of their misdemeanor plea deal. No more teacher. No union problems.Very unlikely, given that that would be construed as an admission of the victim's defense in criminal court. The city wants to prosecute the victim... no matter how much it ultimately costs.
To the best of my knowledge, a misdemeanor conviction (except for domestic violence, and that only because it bars possession of a firearm) is not an absolute bar to employment as a cop. The cheerleaders for the Chicago cop who tried to kick the barmaid to death, those who admitted that he'd even done anything wrong AT ALL, wanted him AT MOST, convicted of a misdemeanor so that he could stay on the job.
Couple things.
1. Never leave your vehicle unless ordered too.
2. Dont wave your license around... one must verbally notify in Ohio & produce a license upon request.
3. Hands where they can be seen on the steering wheel.
4. Speak loud, clear and notify, even if you have to interrupt the officer, finish your sentence. Do not tell stories or explain ... NOTIFY!
5. Move slow and with clear intent. (One shouldnt need to move at all when verbally informing, but may need to move in order to obtain their DL and CHL)
6. Do not touch your gun, unless ordered too.
7. Carry a voice recorder.
8. Don't stop to chat up a HO.
ROFLMAO!!
Couple things.
1. Never leave your vehicle unless ordered too.
2. Dont wave your license around... one must verbally notify in Ohio & produce a license upon request.
3. Hands where they can be seen on the steering wheel.
4. Speak loud, clear and notify, even if you have to interrupt the officer, finish your sentence. Do not tell stories or explain ... NOTIFY!
5. Move slow and with clear intent. (One shouldnt need to move at all when verbally informing, but may need to move in order to obtain their DL and CHL)
6. Do not touch your gun, unless ordered too.
7. Carry a voice recorder.
8. Don't stop to chat up a HO.
I realize you are serious and I have lived in the US for more than a decade. But I am from Germany originally and I have to tell you THAT sounds like a list I would NOT want to see in what is supposed the "leader of the free world".
Up to this very moment, it appears that the prosecutor is FAR more interested in falsely prosecuting the victim than in prosecuting Officer Harless. In fact, as far as we know, the prosecutor thinks that Harless is a "Real American Hero". Certainly no charges have been filed against HIM. That's almost CERTAINLY because his prosecution of the victim is his foremost priority. He KNOWS the charges are false. He's only interested in intimidating the victim into not seeking redress in civil court. Probably by this point, he's also interested in punishing the victim for embarrassing the city.If you give him a good enough plea offer he'd go willingly. As counsel to the NYC BOE, that's the exact technique my good friend used to terminate bad teachers in NYC. Perverts and such. Get their teaching license as part of their misdemeanor plea deal. No more teacher. No union problems.
But the nature of this guy's behavior is egregious. It's bad. He's a liability risk to the city and a danger to the public. If you or I say those exact words to someone on video, while armed, we would sure as sh_t get pinched.
I realize you are serious and I have lived in the US for more than a decade. But I am from Germany originally and I have to tell you THAT sounds like a list I would NOT want to see in what is supposed the "leader of the free world".
It is a sad state of affairs in our country right now. This is starting to become reminiscent of Nazi Germany and the Gestapo. I'm afraid you haven't seen anything yet. The elitists of this country are trying to subjugate us to absolute fear of authorities and eliminate all of our constitutional rights. Guns are a prime target and, when taken away, will leave us defenseless in an already deteriorating society. Government entities are increasisngly developing their own law enforcement agencies and will soon rival the military, a goal which our leader said he wanted when he came into office. If something isn't done to stop the Liberal tide, we will all suffer tremendously. Hopefully, The Republicans with the Tea Partyers and anyone else they can get to come along will help save this country. If not, Zeig Heil!
I had a CHP friend that was an expert at catching drunk drivers. Because of that talent he had a lot of contact with politicans, attorneys, district attoneys and other law officers. Some of which seemed to have a penchant for DWI and were licensed to carry guns. He told me he never let any of them unholster their gun he always did it for them with his drawn.
In the case of thevCanton O. Guy i would have made a formal request for a supervising officer on the scene and would have been happy to wait for his/her arrival. It used to be the law in Ohio that such a request was to be honored.
I believe that you're referring to the City Council President, a Mr. Schulman, NOT the Mayor.There maybe a lot more going on here than meets the eye. Another web site posted a video of the Canton Mayor ranting that the common person should not have access to fire arms. The police officers may have been following covert harassment orders issued by the mayor. It is not the first time I have heard of such occurrences.
Sad but true.Up to this very moment, it appears that the prosecutor is FAR more interested in falsely prosecuting the victim than in prosecuting Officer Harless. In fact, as far as we know, the prosecutor thinks that Harless is a "Real American Hero". Certainly no charges have been filed against HIM. That's almost CERTAINLY because his prosecution of the victim is his foremost priority. He KNOWS the charges are false. He's only interested in intimidating the victim into not seeking redress in civil court. Probably by this point, he's also interested in punishing the victim for embarrassing the city.
I believe that you're referring to the City Council President, a Mr. Schulman, NOT the Mayor.
Grunt has it correct. The intent of the second amendment was to ensure Americans remained free from a tyrannical government such as that of King George III. It is based on the premise that all freedom shall exist at the end of a gun. To disarm Americans is to prevent the will of the people from governing. This tactic was used by Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao, Castro, Kim Jung iL and Colonol Qaddifi Fried Chicken. The destruction or re-interpretation of the second amendment renders the Declaration of independence and the premise of freedom upon which America was founded to be defunct.It is a sad state of affairs in our country right now. This is starting to become reminiscent of Nazi Germany and the Gestapo. I'm afraid you haven't seen anything yet. The elitists of this country are trying to subjugate us to absolute fear of authorities and eliminate all of our constitutional rights. Guns are a prime target and, when taken away, will leave us defenseless in an already deteriorating society. Government entities are increasisngly developing their own law enforcement agencies and will soon rival the military, a goal which our leader said he wanted when he came into office. If something isn't done to stop the Liberal tide, we will all suffer tremendously. Hopefully, The Republicans with the Tea Partyers and anyone else they can get to come along will help save this country. If not, Zeig Heil!
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