In Ohio, our CCW classes were told to NEVER buy one of the CCW badges as they can be considered "Impersonating a Law Enforcement Officer" and get you in a lot more trouble than the need to inform. No one in Ohio is supposed to be flashing a badge except actual law enforcement officers (LEO).
What a bunch of bull. 25% failure rate in business? I'd love to know where he gets that stat. i never had a work force where 25% of my employees failed at their job. This LEO has some serious anger issues. He couldn't keep a job at Burger King with that behavior. Look at that video again. this isn't some guy having a bad day. This is an accomplished lunatic. People don't go that far over the edge just once. This is part of his personality. He needs help.
Not so much.
It depends ENTIRELY upon where you are. There are places (like Chicago, New Orleans and Philadelphia) where a Harless can not only get by, he can PROSPER. If he's in the right environment, a cop can shoot an unarmed man, lie about it, get found out, and still get promoted. It happened in Chicago with Officer Alvin Weems. He murdered a guy and got promoted to detective. He recently ate his own gun... YEARS after the crime, and while an active cop.
Don't kid yourself about "bad apples" getting "weeded out". It took Weems "weeding" HIMSELF out.
I notice you are pretty new, so I will be gentle.
CCW Badges are pretty much a running joke here, since "we don' need no stinking badges"...
G50 will put in a mention whenever there is a place into which one can possibly be squeezed...
Having one would be pretty hard to make stick as impersonating, not to mention that MOST officers would be so busy laughing that they would probably screw up the arest.
As lame and ridiculous as cc badges are, you can not be charged with impersonating an officer unless you use it on a police uniform, identify yourself as a police officer, or the badge itself says something about police
TekGreg, Yea I know it's going to take some time and now that I am back in Ohio I am going to find ways to get involved on helping that law get changed or totally removed.
Sometime the police dept has bad leaders from the top who say things and cover up bad things and if they do this for a long time the entire force is out of control. So in some towns it 90% of the force and only the new cops are doing what they learned in the academy. till they are retrained by the older cops then they are bad too, sometimes the fbi gets the police charter taken away if it's a small town and the couny can cover it or the city get a oversight review and training mandate it has happen. I wished the fbi did more.
Do they even have a full time dept to cover bad police forces. prob not!
that dept would be the ones who for real serve and protect. it seems the policeforces just serve and protect
city GOV, the kings guard.
The FBI won't do anything about things the public doesn't complain about. I mean, if the public doesn't care that their police force is corrupt, why should the Fed waste resources cleaning it up? If complaint after complaint hits their office and the ACLU gets on the news complaining, then it looks bad if the FBI doesn't do something. Someone has to start the ball rolling.
Yeah but we're talking about something much more than a person not being a good employee. Sure there's lot's of poor workers, just call any customer support department. But we shouldn't be comparing that with a bonifide lunatic who is out of control and dangerous. This guy is much more than just a bad employee, he's disturbed. 25% of the work force is not comprised of such people.BC1, Corporate employees are not watched as closely as LEO's or other public employees. Corporate employees are not always fired when found to be "failures." As a matter of fact, I and my family have worked in many of the Fortune 500 and seen people in the same chair for many, many years that could definitely be considered a "failure" at their job, but for one reason or another, no one ever got around to removing them from the company. I would say their waste of corporate time, resources, morale and synergy would definitely still qualify them as a "failure" and I can personally attest to an even greater than 25% rate in some corporations larger than 7,000 people.
This is just a personal observation, but I'm sure if others look at it in this light, they can see "failures" in other businesses and corporations for what they truly are.
In places like Chicago, that's the ONLY thing they've EVER known.The FBI won't do anything about things the public doesn't complain about.
In places like Chicago, that's the ONLY thing they've EVER known.
It's like North Korea, if North Koreans could watch or listen to anything they wanted and could come and go as they please, but STILL chose to be slaves.
A LOT of Chicagoans that I've known, including relatives, are seemingly PROUD of the corruption, and simply can't IMAGINE living some place where you're WON'T be robbed by the police. For them, out of control police criminality is the NORM.
On the other hand, you have people in small towns who simply REFUSE to believe that a home invasion ring could POSSIBLY operate for YEARS, INSIDE of a police department. NO amount of evidence will convince them. Cops just WOULDN'T do such things and it's simply IMPOSSIBLE.
Just a guess here, but maybe people fail to believe because more than 1-3% of their police encounters have been with assholes. In addition to being a normal guy who occasionally gets a speeding ticket, I spent many years as a Volunteer EMT and Fire Chief: I've worked with and dealt with a few cops, ranging from the very finest to true sadistic psychopaths.
Based on my lifetime of observation, I do not believe the 1-3% figure. Maybe once, but that was in the past. I've known some really fine Officers; most of them have retired or are about to. My best friend since Jr. High put in 30 years as a King County Mountie, and he's very glad to be out of it.
Police are the enforcement tools of the ruling class, and what that ruling class wants today is not Officer Friendly.
I am glad we have no "duty to declare" in my state, but I believe the linking of CPL to Driver's License and Vehicle Registration is done in hopes of causing a few violent events that can be used by the anti-freedom forces of the ruling class.
Yeah but we're talking about something much more than a person not being a good employee. Sure there's lot's of poor workers, just call any customer support department. But we shouldn't be comparing that with a bonifide lunatic who is out of control and dangerous. This guy is much more than just a bad employee, he's disturbed. 25% of the work force is not comprised of such people.
Thanks you gave me a good idea and I drafted a letter to the Oklahoma ACUL this morning regarding my arrest and treatment by the Tulsa Police Officer Kristy Maxwell Allen on July 16 2010.
In places like Chicago, that's the ONLY thing they've EVER known.
It's like North Korea, if North Koreans could watch or listen to anything they wanted and could come and go as they please, but STILL chose to be slaves.
A LOT of Chicagoans that I've known, including relatives, are seemingly PROUD of the corruption, and simply can't IMAGINE living some place where you're WON'T be robbed by the police. For them, out of control police criminality is the NORM.
On the other hand, you have people in small towns who simply REFUSE to believe that a home invasion ring could POSSIBLY operate for YEARS, INSIDE of a police department. NO amount of evidence will convince them. Cops just WOULDN'T do such things and it's simply IMPOSSIBLE.
Your opinion, my opinion, and everyone else' opinions of police are based on a lot more than the actual police officers themselves. Many people think more than 3% of cops are assholes because they have heard stories from other people... stories that are biased and filled with emotions. Opinions of police are also based on what we see in the media, the more stories and videos you hear about bad cops, the less you think of them, and when you do think of police, those stories are in the back of your head. Opinions are also based on emotions, like being mad about a speeding ticket and deciding the cop is an ******* because you dont think speeding is a big issue, or maybe you didnt like having to get searched.
Ill say it once again, opinions we have towards the police are based on a lot more than the actual police officers themselves.
Any ignorant person can say, "look at this video of the cop beating this guy up, and I heard from a friend that he got a DUI when he wasnt that drunk, and I heard another story on the news, and I didnt like how I was treated when I was arrested for fighting in public, therefore based on these stories, all cops are bad".
I got a question: Those are some neat stories there, but what about the thousands of other police-citizen interactions every day that do not end with bad feelings or a video for the news? Thats because most cops do their job right, and are out there doing good work.
A psychology teacher of mine told a class one time that we make choices emotionally and then justify them logically. What this means in this case is that a lot of people will decide whether or not they are going to like law enforcement or not (emotional decision) and then they will start gathering evidence to only support their decision - only watch the bad police videos if they hate police, etc. It's obvious I'm an LEO supporter, but I embrace problems like this because I believe they happen and they need to be dealt with. I think if we look fairly at both sides of the issue, we will see LEO's as humans and maybe find better ways to deal with them in real life situations.
Thus the anti-gun position that when you put a gun in someone's hand they become a lunatic? That's been proven untrue repeatedly.Well, I was only comparing people that didn't do their jobs and were fire-able - to me, these are all failures. But to be fair, the comparison wouldn't truly be compete unless we placed guns in the hands of everyone in corporate America and allowed them the ability to enforce, say, a balance sheet, by pulling a gun and taking someone to jail! It's a ridiculous premise, I know, but I bet we would find a lot more "bona fide lunatics," as you put it.
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