These were really popular with a lot of law enforcement guys back in the 70's, who's standard issue were 1911's. Back then there was a waiting list by Seecamp to get these done. I heard back then the turnaround time on them was as long as a year. I've handled and shot a few of them, and they're a very high quality conversion. The welding, fit and finish on them is superb. Fast forward 40 years, and now, with so many D/A autos out there, they've become more of a collector piece that has desirability with guys old enough to remember them. Everyone into guns in the 70's and 80's has heard of L.W. Seecamp, along with his guns. Today, not so much. Much like Armand Swenson 1911's, they're held in high regard with the people who are old enough to remember them.