I have always used a lockable plastic case and put the unloaded gun in it with two loaded magazines and my spyderco knife. I have never used ammo boxes. Never had a problem.
(a signed form/tag indicating that will go in with the weapon(s))
Just call your local TSA and the airline you are using and ask for the rules it is not difficult to follow and really isn't even much of an inconvenience even if they ask you to open the box. It is also important to call ahead to your destination and check out the local laws there. If they don't honor your permit and or have additional firearm restrictions IE your hotel you might want to leave it at home.
Print a copy of the TSA rules and take it with you.
Have it well read and even highlight some parts.
If you have an issue TSA may not know the rules better than you.
Your goal is not is correct them but to get on the plane and your weapon in your luggage traveling with you.
Travelers should remain in the area designated by the aircraft operator or TSA representative to take the key back after the container is cleared for transportation.
(iv) The container in which it is carried is locked, and only the passenger retains the key or combination.
Your goal might be to get on the plane and your weapon in your luggage traveling with you. My goal is to comply with Federal Regulations so as not to receive a citation, a fine, and possibly a jail sentence. For example.... the "TSA Rules" contain this statement:
QUOTE]
Was that not what was implied?
If you printed the rules, read the rules, even highlighted important parts to remind you what to do. Plus not get in a pissing contest with TSA, or the airlines agent.
And please do not forget the goal, for you to get on the plane and your firearm to get on the plane, would mean you were NOT arrested and put in jail. But you are happily flying to your destination.
Your goal might be to get on the plane and your weapon in your luggage traveling with you. My goal is to comply with Federal Regulations so as not to receive a citation, a fine, and possibly a jail sentence. For example.... the "TSA Rules" contain this statement:
QUOTE]
Was that not what was implied?
If you printed the rules, read the rules, even highlighted important parts to remind you what to do. Plus not get in a pissing contest with TSA, or the airlines agent.
And please do not forget the goal, for you to get on the plane and your firearm to get on the plane, would mean you were NOT arrested and put in jail. But you are happily flying to your destination.
And what if the airline policy, TSA Rules, or what the airline agent or TSA agent is requesting that you do violates Federal Regulation?
There are airline websites and the TSA website which either state or imply to hand over the key if the case needs to be opened for inspection. So what do you do in real life? Hand over the key in violation of Federal Regulations so as not to engage in a pissing contest with TSA or the airline agent?
Flying with a firearm is pretty dang simple. And the real Federal Regulations are pretty dang simple.
The reason the declaration tag goes on the outside of the locked gun case, but inside the suitcase is because if TSA detects the handgun they will be able to find the declaration tag without having to find the passenger in order to open the gun case to retrieve the declaration tag for inspection.
Flying with a firearm is pretty dang simple. And the real Federal Regulations are pretty dang simple.
The reason the declaration tag goes on the outside of the locked gun case, but inside the suitcase is because if TSA detects the handgun they will be able to find the declaration tag without having to find the passenger in order to open the gun case to retrieve the declaration tag for inspection.
Yes that is why you print yourself a copy of it.
And what if the airline policy, TSA Rules, or what the airline agent or TSA agent is requesting that you do violates Federal Regulation?
There are airline websites and the TSA website which either state or imply to hand over the key if the case needs to be opened for inspection. So what do you do in real life? Hand over the key in violation of Federal Regulations so as not to engage in a pissing contest with TSA or the airline agent?
Flying with a firearm is pretty dang simple. And the real Federal Regulations are pretty dang simple.
The reason the declaration tag goes on the outside of the locked gun case, but inside the suitcase is because if TSA detects the handgun they will be able to find the declaration tag without having to find the passenger in order to open the gun case to retrieve the declaration tag for inspection.
They asked me to open my case once and when they did they opened my bag turned it toward me and let me unlock the case. They did the inspection not actually touching the firearm then let me close and lock the case then sealed my bag. No problem or hassle at all took about 5 extra minutes. The ticket agent always tells you to wait a few minutes before going to the gate to give them time to let the bag pass or flag it for inspection. This is a very simple and well laid out process if you just comply with the rules. That's why you need to get the rules for yourself from your local airline rep and the local TSA office. Do not do anything based on information you get from this site, your local gun store, or even local law enforcement.
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