Here's a thought.
if our medical records are private and not available to the government do we have an obligation to inform them of any and all medical conditions? would this be a violation of the 5th amendment?
If you answered no and they come forward stating they know you are using anti-depressants you / we now would know they are violating doctor / patient privilege.
Plus, depending on which county in CA you live in, thinking you can get a CCW may be proof of irrational behaviour. :frown:
Sam
While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee shall not, when carrying a
concealed weapon:
• Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
Why not lie about other things on your application?
Sounds like you intend to ignore the rules, if you think you can get away with it. Isn't that the mindset of most criminals?
It's funny you give Billary a pass but call this guy out for wanting to lie. Sometimes I just don't understand you XD.
Attorney is not needed.
You are required to answer the form truthfully.
If you don't, you are a criminal, even if you're not the type we carry guns to protect ourselves from.
It's not a gray area.
Page 5: While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee shall not, when carrying a
concealed weapon:
• Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
That's one of the broadest no-carry laws. Some states, like Kansas, prohibit carry only if under the influence of drugs to "such a degree as to render such person incapable of safely operating a firearm."
Other states, like New York, have no such laws because it assumes if you are granted a concealed carry permit you'll be responsible and mature enough to not use your weapon while incapable of using it in safe manner.
To bad so many states feel the need to babysit their concealed carry permit holders. Might be better not to give them a permit at all if they can't be trusted not to SWD ("shoot while drunk").
The problem is that part of the California CCW application process, the suspect...I mean applicant, is going to sign a medical release form:
http://cms.sbcounty.gov/Portals/34/CCW Forms/CCW NOTARIZED FORM.pdf
And then there is this, which if true, our suspect....I mean applicant, would not be able to carry concealed anyway, even if he was taking only an aspirin:
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Everyone should read these documents! These are the two of the best examples of an Alice in Wonderland, Orwellian logic in print.
If you wish to play their game you can try to argue and debate the definition of each word, each sentence, each paragraph separately using the Shyster definitions not Webster's, along with 37,000 court documents that reference said words or sentances until the end of time.
Or one could read these as a whole and summarize. They demand you give up ALL rights, now and forever in order to have the privilege of exercising another right.
No, I am not about to disregard what they call law and carry, but am also not going to drop my pants and bend over.
I continue to be angry and sad.
Sam
What about HIPA- states that our prescription drugs and medications are private and cannot be accessed w/out our permission?
That's one of the broadest no-carry laws. Some states, like Kansas, prohibit carry only if under the influence of drugs to "such a degree as to render such person incapable of safely operating a firearm."
Other states, like New York, have no such laws because it assumes if you are granted a concealed carry permit you'll be responsible and mature enough to not use your weapon while incapable of using it in safe manner.
Is wishful thinking.Plus, depending on which county in CA you live in, thinking you can get a CCW ...
+1... Been there, done that!You can always move to a state that isn't so restrictive if you really want to CC.
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