I'm a life-long 1911 shooter. I'm getting my CCW and am looking to carry a 9mm. Are there any suggestions on the best pistol and perhaps rig? Thanks!
I carry a Bersa Thunder .45 whenever possible. I have had too many friends who have complained about failures and the inabilities of a 9mm to stop an attacker to wish to put my stock in one of those firearms.
[B]Manufacturer Load Mass Velocity Energy Expansion[25] Penetration[25] PC[25] TSC[25][/B]
[I]9x19mm[/I]
Federal HydraShok JHP +P+ 8.0 g (124 gr) 370 m/s (1,220 ft/s) 560 J (410 ft·lb) 17 mm (0.67 in) 340 mm (13.4 in) 77 mL (4.7 cu in) 734 mL (44.8 cu in)
Speer Gold Dot JHP 8.0 g (124 gr) 400 m/s (1,310 ft/s) 640 J (472 ft·lb) 18 mm (0.70 in) 337 mm (13.25 in) 84 mL (5.1 cu in) 616 mL (37.6 cu in) (est)
[I].40S&W[/I]
Federal HydraShok JHP 10.0 g (155 gr) 350 m/s (1,140 ft/s) 606 J (447 ft·lbf) 17 mm (0.68 in) 33.8 cm (13.3 in) 79 cm3 (4.8 cu in) 785 cm3 (47.9 cu in)
Remington Golden Saber JHP 10.7 g (165 gr) 350 m/s (1,150 ft/s) 658 J (485 ft·lbf) 17 mm (0.68 in) 30.5 cm (12.0 in) 72 cm3 (4.4 cu in) 674 cm3 (41.1 cu in)
[I].45ACP[/I]
Federal HydraShok JHP 15 g (230 gr) 260 m/s (850 ft/s) 500 J (369 ft·lb) 20 mm (0.78 in) 300 mm (12.0 in) 93.9 mL (5.73 cu in) 465 mL (28.4 cu in)
Remington Golden Saber JHP 15 g (230 gr) 267 m/s (875 ft/s) 530 J (391 ft·lb) 19 mm (0.75 in) 360 mm (14.3 in) 103.6 mL (6.32 cu in) 416 mL (25.4 cu in)
I have a Glock 19 and love it. Just does everything right. Easy to conceal OWB or IWB, lightweight, accurate, dependable, reliable and holds 15+1 rounds of 9mm.
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Before I bought my first pistol I asked for lots of suggestions and did lots of research online. My next step was to find a range that rented pistols. Some of those pistols that sounded great or that were recommended to me I didn't like at all. Sometimes it was the grip; sometimes it was the trigger and other times it was something else. Doesn't really matter what it was because those particular guns just didn't work right with me. I did find a pistol that fells great in my hand and I can shoot it better than a Glock although the Glock was a close second after trying out all the other pistols. I settled on a Sprningfield XDm 3.8 barrel because it felt the best and it shot the best for me. Another reason I liked it is that it came with two different magazines and I can use the smaller one to CC. I'm not recommending a XDM or a Glock to you; I'm recommending you go shoot several different 9mm pistols and then make your decision.
Your friends were incorrect. Modern 9mm ammo has pretty much identical ballistics between 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45ACP. I'll give you an example:
Code:[B]Manufacturer Load Mass Velocity Energy Expansion[25] Penetration[25] PC[25] TSC[25][/B] [I]9x19mm[/I] Federal HydraShok JHP +P+ 8.0 g (124 gr) 370 m/s (1,220 ft/s) 560 J (410 ft·lb) 17 mm (0.67 in) 340 mm (13.4 in) 77 mL (4.7 cu in) 734 mL (44.8 cu in) Speer Gold Dot JHP 8.0 g (124 gr) 400 m/s (1,310 ft/s) 640 J (472 ft·lb) 18 mm (0.70 in) 337 mm (13.25 in) 84 mL (5.1 cu in) 616 [/QUOTE] Modern 9mm of equal status is not equal to 40 or 45. Comparing +P or +P+ is not comparing Apples to Apples. Recoil from a + or ++ rounds is snappier and therefore it's not like shooting a softer recoiling 9mm any longer. In addition, when I search the manufacturer websites for the ammo you list, they do not show the same energy numbers you list above. None showed anything over 377lbs. for a 9mm round by Federal or Speer (that was from their 2013 catalogs). What is true however, is that there are non + rated 40 caliber ammunition that pushes more energy than some 45 standard ammo.
Modern 9mm of equal status is not equal to 40 or 45. Comparing +P or +P+ is not comparing Apples to Apples. Recoil from a + or ++ rounds is snappier and therefore it's not like shooting a softer recoiling 9mm any longer. In addition, when I search the manufacturer websites for the ammo you list, they do not show the same energy numbers you list above. None showed anything over 377lbs. for a 9mm round by Federal or Speer (that was from their 2013 catalogs). What is true however, is that there are non + rated 40 caliber ammunition that pushes more energy than some 45 standard ammo.
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